Am I jerk if I don't perform DATY?

[Guest]

Can someone change the title of this to "Misogyinst 101:  How to offend everyone in 2 easy steps!"

Why did the OP create two accounts other than to support his warped view of our lovely ladies?

[ajot]

Ya, OP and many of the others are trolling. No one with the IQ to breathe spouts bullshit you might hear at an Ayn Rand or conservative libertarian jerkoff meeting like "these guys are noble for their money." 

If the conversation was: do you expect a guy to go down and get a provider off? The answer would be NO. 

That would probably make more of an experience, and certain providers will require/request it just as other providers might request $500 or $1000/hr. Just as saying yes/no, or doing or not doing certain things will gain or lose you a girlfriend/wife/husband/etc, doing or not doing things could make a provider decide not to see you (again or the first time).

I've lost a girl and gained a different girl (non providers) over my actions with this. And there are MANY men in the hobby, probably reading this right now, that are here because their wives won't. 

So OP is an obvious troll that partially outed himself for no reason.

And this because it is relevant:

 

(Though I thought there was a version with a bigger smile and a longer last movement - oh well)

[Mustang87]

When I'm seeing my ATF or another favorite for an hour appointment I usually like DATY.  When I'm seeing someone for the first time, or it is a QV, then I often don't.  I've never had any lady express anger or frustration towards me because I didn't preform DATY.

[41SM]

On 3/8/2016 at 3:12 PM, 41SM said:

The women are here for money. The men are here for pussy. This is a simple, undeniable truth. The hobby is no less a beautiful endeavor if we acknowledge the veracity of my claims. The women here are noble professionals, their work keeps many feeble marriages from falling apart and they help many men experience passion that they can't find outside of the hobby. There are a lot of men with virtuous hearts and benevolent souls that would never have the chance to melt into a gorgeous women if not for the hobby. They weren't blessed with Clooney like charisma, or Brad Pitt looks, which inhibits them from sleeping with ravishing girls in the "real world" but in this hobby they have a chance to live their boyhood dreams. They can be made to feel like an adonis instead of sexual leper. They can know what it feels like to receive compassion, instead of cruelty and a crippling ambivalence, from a stunning woman. The women here should ride their clients with pride. They are helping ensure that many kids don't have to grow up in fractured homes and giving passion and love in world that's growing more and more callous. 

The men here are also noble heroes; the economic contributions they make to these ladies helps them live a better life than the one they would be forced live if they had to do demeaning and soul slaying minimum wage jobs. The men here help mothers provide for children who have been abandoned by their biological fathers. The men here help young girls get through college and attain upward mobility. I know a woman who became an escort after the death of her husband. He left her with two kids but not a dime or life insurance or much savings. Hobbyist are the sole reason she was able to stay in here home and provide as a single mother. The men here should fuck with valor and pride; in many ways they are guardian angels helping women who are in the midst of a harsh financial struggle. This is a beautiful business that spawns a lot of good. Just don't be a fool and say it's anything more than business.  

I've had multiple people, both men and women, send me PMs telling me that my assertions in this thread are all astute. A lot of people also really enjoyed the literary merits and philosophy of these last two paragraphs. Publicly many men are lambasting me because they want to propound some type of "white knight" persona so that women will be more likely to see them. Some women are also attempting to disembowel me for marketing purposes; they want to differentiate themselves from other providers and suggest that they truly care about their clients' souls and not just their wallets. I get the public condemning; it's a savvy business decision. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, 41SM said:

I've had multiple people, both men and women, send me PMs telling me that my assertions in this thread are all astute. A lot of people also really enjoyed the literary merits and philosophy of these last two paragraphs. Publicly many men are lambasting me because they want to propound some type of "white knight" persona so that women will be more likely to see them. Some women are also attempting to disembowel me for marketing purposes; they want to differentiate themselves from other providers and suggest that they truly care about their clients' souls and not just their wallets. I get the public condemning; it's a savvy business decision. 

I've had multiple people tell me that my theory of an alien invasion is accurate!  Guess we are tied with the multiple people count.  Mine have told me that they have been abducted by aliens and cross bred with alien lizards... What are yours telling you?  We need to compare notes!

[gr8owl]

3 hours ago, 41SM said:

I've had multiple people, both men and women, send me PMs telling me that my assertions in this thread are all astute. A lot of people also really enjoyed the literary merits and philosophy of these last two paragraphs. Publicly many men are lambasting me because they want to propound some type of "white knight" persona so that women will be more likely to see them. Some women are also attempting to disembowel me for marketing purposes; they want to differentiate themselves from other providers and suggest that they truly care about their clients' souls and not just their wallets. I get the public condemning; it's a savvy business decision. 

Yeah, thousands are thrilled with Donald and Bernie too.  Wouldn't put much stock in it ...... someone will go for any raw bullshit you put out there.  As to the writing I am sure the Nobel committee is thinking of a category for you as we speak. 

[lakerboy24]

Okay everyone might hate me after this but I have to agree with OP on certain points. I myself don't ever partake in daty with a provider. Hell, I even never would be comfortable with BBBJ or kissing. Everything has to be covered. I wanna say I agree with OP in that you providers see all kinds of different guys so it just makes me weary. The same could be said with providers. You ladies don't know us clients or who we've been with. So rightfully you have the right to make the rules and how you want things to go. What I don't agree with is how rudely he worded his opinions. To say the things he said about providers being so unclean by doing what you're doing was just a flat out false generalization. If anything, most of you ladies are much cleaner and hygienic than the general population. I hope I'm not coming off as someone that thinks he's somehow better and cleaner than you guys by my preferences in the hobby because I don't believe that at all, it's just what I'm comfortable with. So far I've had no issues with providers in that sense, so OP claiming that somehow the ladies mistreat him or don't like him for not giving them daty seems so far fetched to me. 

[pfunk]

17 minutes ago, lakerboy24 said:

Okay everyone might hate me after this but I have to agree with OP on certain points. I myself don't ever partake in daty with a provider. Hell, I even never would be comfortable with BBBJ or kissing. Everything has to be covered. I wanna say I agree with OP in that you providers see all kinds of different guys so it just makes me weary. The same could be said with providers. You ladies don't know us clients or who we've been with. So rightfully you have the right to make the rules and how you want things to go. What I don't agree with is how rudely he worded his opinions. To say the things he said about providers being so unclean by doing what you're doing was just a flat out false generalization. If anything, most of you ladies are much cleaner and hygienic than the general population. I hope I'm not coming off as someone that thinks he's somehow better and cleaner than you guys by my preferences in the hobby because I don't believe that at all, it's just what I'm comfortable with. So far I've had no issues with providers in that sense, so OP claiming that somehow the ladies mistreat him or don't like him for not giving them daty seems so far fetched to me. 

This is an understandable position. I have no issue with you enjoying the session however you prefer. You haven't said anything rude, or insulted anyone. I also agree with the last sentence, which I highlighted. Thanks for your input.

[2Big]

On 1.3.2016 at 7:12 PM, 41SM said:

I'm not going to lie; the notion that I could be putting my mouth in a location that was recently occupied by multiple penises is quite oft putting.

Again, she's sucking your dick. Pretty much with a mouth guaranteed to have been occupied by a platoon's worth of  cock. This doesn't bother you?

[TooHot]

I would argue u r an idiot/gay/desperate if u perform DATY on a girl who fucked 9 different dudes in the last 2 days...how did all that dick taste?

[jj254-1]

2 hours ago, TooHot said:

I would argue u r an idiot/gay/desperate if u perform DATY on a girl who fucked 9 different dudes in the last 2 days...how did all that dick taste?

Like pussy. 

[Guest]

He made a new account lol.  If you're the kind of cheap bastard that pays a woman 60 for a qv, yes I'm sure there has been 9 dicks in there. But the majority of the women on TOB are low volume and don't see more than 2 guys a day and they usually spread really far apart.  It's like going to a McDonald's vs a Landrys,  and expecting the bathrooms to be clean. Ya get what you pay for!

[Hvnaball2]

3 hours ago, TooHot said:

I would argue u r an idiot/gay/desperate if u perform DATY on a girl who fucked 9 different dudes in the last 2 days...how did all that dick taste?

Wow! This has deteriorated from a relatively intellectual discussion to a completely low-brow, knuckle-dragging brawl. Back to your hole under a rock, "TooHot" (smurk emogi added)!

[BadBoy]

Well, it may have started as sad little rant by a lonely misogynist, to a considered community banishment of same, to a full-on, misogynist - feminist, dirty-word-using, dick kickin, pussy whacken, knock down, drag out, good old-fashioned, TOB troll baiting thread.  We even have 2-Big and a few of the old reliables chiming in.  Just like the old days, first really good one since the changeover.

But now, stop, really, it couldn't get any better (or could it?)

[AlexisSweet69]

No worries, I'll just use my vibrator to stimulate my clit!

[MOCHA]

In my personal life I strictly follow "you don't eat you don't beat (beat meaning fuck)".

BUT inside of the hobby well if you don't want to go down it might disappoint me but I wouldn't show it and will respect your time fulfilling whatever else you want to do.

Your time your coin.