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Hello TOB, I'm Pete, I'm glad to be here and hope you will be glad to have me. I'm from north Denver, co (why I posted here)

 

I'm 30yo, and have been interested in being a hobbyist for several years now.

I've been hesitant because of the risks but have done enough research to go forward with some advice.

Firstly, and this seems really stupid, but I'm a big guy 6'4 and fat.  Am I going to be rejected by a lot of providers?  If so I might as well go to the bar and get rejected.

Secondly, I would love some advice on providers who are first timer friendly, I'm a shy nice guy, and likely to be taken advantage of at first.  If I'm going to make this a life style I have to get some references and it seems hard to find someone for first timers.

 

other than that I'm glad to have found TOB, P411 etc.  other legitimate website suggestions would be appreciated. 

 

I'm a bit nervous about my first time (as a hobbiest.....not a virgin), what would you veterans have to say.

I'll add some pics and info to my profile soon if you are interested.

 

Thanks a lot!

Pete

 

 

 

 

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Hi Pete!

I myself and 6'3" and not quite a Twiggy person myself.  Almost all of the lovely ladies on this board would love to spend time with you as long as:

1.  You are a prefect gentleman

2.  You show up on time and do not waste their valuable time.

3.  You are clean and well manicured.

4.  You don't try and rip them off.

5.  You have some sort of decent personality.

6.  You don't ask for specific behaviors during communication with them before you have met.

7.  Be a perfect gentlemen!

Teddy bears are not frowned upon by the lovely ladies here! :-)

 

Welcome to TOB by the way!  I am sure you will enjoy your time here!

 

Lovely ladies, did I miss anything?

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Be a clean, respectful gentleman and youll be fine.  And welcome.  

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1 hour ago, PeteSetter said:

I'm a bit nervous about my first time (as a hobbiest.....not a virgin), what would you veterans have to say.

 

The first time I did this I was so nervous even I thought it was funny. I was very lucky to have picked a really nice young lady from a Backpage ad. So someone was smiling on me. She was such a good sport about it and did everything she could to make me comfortable. I'm sure she laughed about it, but I got the impression I was far from the first. 

You're going  to be nervous. If you're like me you'll be very nervous the fist several times. It never totally goes away, but eventually it's like anything - you get used to it and it's not such a big deal. The trick is to enjoy the experience, even if you're really nervous. It's exciting and fun no matter what. And my memory of that first time is a great one. 

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Oh... And as long as you have two references... This is where it gets a little tricky.

First, find ladies that advertise as newbie friendly... Then get ready to reveal whatever level of personal information they require for them to feel comfortable.  I will PM you a name of one that I know of that won't ask for your social security number and vehicle registration and that will get you a small head start. :-)

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Hi Pete,

I sent you the PM of who I thought you might want to start off with.  If you are concerned about nerves, you might want to focus your first couple of meetings on FBSM providers as there is no pressure on you.

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Thanks all, very helpful I'm glad I posted.  This should be an exciting ride!!!

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Good luck Mr Setter. Welcome to the board and have some fun! There are truly a lot of wonderful ladies who would love spending time with you. Colorado is blessed with an abundance of magnificent providers!

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2 hours ago, Riggo said:

Oh... And as long as you have two references... This is where it gets a little tricky.

First, find ladies that advertise as newbie friendly... Then get ready to reveal whatever level of personal information they require for them to feel comfortable.  I will PM you a name of one that I know of that won't ask for your social security number and vehicle registration and that will get you a small head start. :-)

If they want personal information move on to the next provider on your list. first and foremost protect yourself and keep your personal information private. I can't stress this enough, a good time is not worth the risk of give out personal information.

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Just now, boink36 said:

If they want personal information move on to the next provider on your list. first and foremost protect yourself and keep your personal information private. I can't stress this enough, a good time is not worth the risk of give out personal information.

Thanks, I understand that, I know my limits of releasing personal information.  Thanks for helping me keep that in mind, id rather not risk myself for one good experience.  

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15 minutes ago, boink36 said:

If they want personal information move on to the next provider on your list. first and foremost protect yourself and keep your personal information private. I can't stress this enough, a good time is not worth the risk of give out personal information.

Guess I could have worded that better and maybe stated professional information, but most ladies won't see a newbie without some kind of proof of identification.

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10 minutes ago, Riggo said:

Guess I could have worded that better and maybe stated professional information, but most ladies won't see a newbie without some kind of proof of identification.

That's fair id say, these ladies need to protect themselves

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3 hours ago, easyfriend33 said:

The first time I did this I was so nervous even I thought it was funny. I was very lucky to have picked a really nice young lady from a Backpage ad. So someone was smiling on me. She was such a good sport about it and did everything she could to make me comfortable. I'm sure she laughed about it, but I got the impression I was far from the first. 

You're going  to be nervous. If you're like me you'll be very nervous the fist several times. It never totally goes away, but eventually it's like anything - you get used to it and it's not such a big deal. The trick is to enjoy the experience, even if you're really nervous. It's exciting and fun no matter what. And my memory of that first time is a great one. 

So you say the trick is to "enjoy the experience, even if you're really nervous".  And I totally accept that, and understand I will be nervous no matter what.  but id love any tips anyone might have to relax.  I have learned a few relaxation techniques, but am so totally befuddled and nervous about what to do my first time.

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Welcome to TOB, PeteSetter. Be respectful. Show up on time with the agreed upon donation. Ensure your personal hygiene is in order. Last but not least...be a gentleman. The lovely ladies of TOB will treat you well and you'll have many experiences if you're willing to follow these few simple rules.

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OMG really? Just go out and get some pussy man, its out there, get some, not complicated. 

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21 hours ago, MisterBigShot said:

Welcome to TOB, PeteSetter. Be respectful. Show up on time with the agreed upon donation. Ensure your personal hygiene is in order. Last but not least...be a gentleman. The lovely ladies of TOB will treat you well and you'll have many experiences if you're willing to follow these few simple rules.

 

On February 9, 2016 at 9:19 PM, boink36 said:

If they want personal information move on to the next provider on your list. first and foremost protect yourself and keep your personal information private. I can't stress this enough, a good time is not worth the risk of give out personal information.

Yep.  I've been burned by this from a provider who works out of LoDo and Interlocken

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On 2/9/2016 at 6:37 PM, Riggo said:

Hi Pete!

I myself and 6'3" and not quite a Twiggy person myself.  Almost all of the lovely ladies on this board would love to spend time with you as long as:

1.  You are a prefect gentleman

2.  You show up on time and do not waste their valuable time.

3.  You are clean and well manicured.

4.  You don't try and rip them off.

5.  You have some sort of decent personality.

6.  You don't ask for specific behaviors during communication with them before you have met.

7.  Be a perfect gentlemen!

Teddy bears are not frowned upon by the lovely ladies here! :-)

 

Welcome to TOB by the way!  I am sure you will enjoy your time here!

 

Lovely ladies, did I miss anything?

 

Mr.Riggo nailed it. For me at least. 

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On 2/9/2016 at 10:22 PM, PeteSetter said:

So you say the trick is to "enjoy the experience, even if you're really nervous".  And I totally accept that, and understand I will be nervous no matter what.  but id love any tips anyone might have to relax.  I have learned a few relaxation techniques, but am so totally befuddled and nervous about what to do my first time.

Book a long session with a woman who seems very nice. Half hour sessions have their place, but book an hour minimum your first time. If a provider you're interested in has a 90 minute rate, all the better. It's amazing what 20 minutes of talking before the action starts will do for your nerves. 

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On February 9, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Riggo said:

Oh... And as long as you have two references... This is where it gets a little tricky. First, find ladies that advertise as newbie friendly...

Just because a provider claims to be newbie friendly doesn't mean she gives references. You find your self right back at being a newbie right after you walk out her door. Some providers play games with references. So your option is to see a provider who is 100% reference friendly and doesn't play bullshit games.  

Then get ready to reveal whatever level of personal information they require for them to feel comfortable. 

NO NO NO AND FUCK NO..... DONT LISTEN TO RIGGO. (sorry riggo :P)

social security number and vehicle registration and that will get you a small head start. :-)

There are provider who will ask for this information don't you dare give it out. 

 

On February 9, 2016 at 9:19 PM, boink36 said:

If they want personal information move on to the next provider on your list. first and foremost protect yourself and keep your personal information private. I can't stress this enough, a good time is not worth the risk of give out personal information.

I am a provider and I agree with you 100%.

On February 9, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Riggo said:

Guess I could have worded that better and maybe stated professional information, but most ladies won't see a newbie without some kind of proof of identification.

REALITY CHECK -

Your right most ladies. But not all of them. Heres how you avoid giving out your personal info.

1. Pick a Hobby Name for example "Jake the Snake"

2. Get a hobby email that is not linked to any personal information. Jakethesnake@gmail.com (don't use sexual terms as part of your email name) 

3. Get a hobby phone whatever you choose is right for you. Registor it only using your Hobby name and Hobby email.  

4. Get on the TOB which you have already done so. Start asking around about providers who have a history of harassment or publicly outing clients/providers by any of the following:

Who show up at your current employment. Contacts your current employment. Contacts previous employers. 

Shows up your family members place of employment. 

Show up at your house and tell your wife. Or other mean of contacting your wife tells on you. 

Blackmails and Extortion. 

Stay away from providers who get upset when you see other girls. They will offer things like "hey come a see me instead, I'm cheeper" Now our ditching the provider you where going to see. For all you know the provider you where going to see is kick ass and even hotter. :D

If a provider is not listed P411 there is reason for it. Either she is new and doesn't meet P411 guidelines or she is from out of town and they use another site. Or she is Bat shit crazy and got kicked off of the site for bad behavior. 

6. TOB Ad Board. Start picking providers who don't require screening information who are newbie friendly and actually give references to other girls. 

7. Or just avoid all the BullShit and get a p411 account. But still get a hobby phone hobby email. Once you get P411 you book a provider who is newbie friendly. Your giving our your info to the escort. Once you meet her, have her give you an ok now she is your reference. 

On February 9, 2016 at 9:48 PM, PeteSetter said:

That's fair id say, these ladies need to protect themselves

Yes 100% right. We should be able to protect ourself. Not all providers have a problem with being Bat Shit Crazy, or outing. The problem is Denver has Serveal aka Many well reviewed well know providers who do have a history of bullshit.......... Some of them even have white knights on the form (yes i just said that, because we all know for fact its true.) who defend them. Thats usually because they gave there personal information to the said providers.  

Remember this: Just because a provider is well known or has reviews doesn't mean jack shit. Remember this "If they will out clients or providers" and you accidentally or purposely piss them off and you gave her your real information she could use it against you in many forms of retaliation you will suffer major consequences. Nothing makes you any different at this point. 

6 hours ago, contrails said:

Yep.  I've been burned by this from a provider who works out of LoDo and Interlocken

Perfect example ^^^THIS^^^ Is why you should clearly pay attention and be careful about who you see. You can even pm guys and them who did what to them. Start creating a list of escorts you should stay away from.

I am also a victim as well. 

There are many other guys on this very form who mentioned they have suffered consequence and sometimes its done for no reason at all. 

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34 minutes ago, Nikki Holiday said:

7. Or just avoid all the BullShit and get a p411 account. But still get a hobby phone hobby email. Once you get P411 you book a provider who is newbie friendly. Your are giving P411 your personal info. But your not giving your info to the escort. P411 dent give out your personal info to any escort. Once you meet her, have her give you an ok now she is your reference. 

Sorry thats what I meant to say. 

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For what it's worth (and I won't get into an argument about this, just sharing my experience) you can join P411 with two provider references as well. Personally, I was more comfortable sharing my information with a couple of well known, reputable, well reviewed, and established human beings I could meet in person, who allowed me into their homes, than I was sharing it with a web site. I'm sure its fine, and I've never heard of anyone having a bad experience. My experience with P411 customer service has been outstanding as well. That was just how I chose to go about it, and want to make sure you know it is another option. 

The important part is, I agree with others who say P411 is a great resource. Especially if you plan to travel. It's possible to do the research in your home town and have a good sense of who is legit, but if you want to find a great evening out of town, P411 makes it SO much easier and less stressful. 

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2 hours ago, easyfriend33 said:

For what it's worth  you can join P411 with two provider references as well. 

I forgot to mention this. I usually do. Just don't give your info. Not all providers require screening. Thanks for covering me easyfriend33. Your chill hotrod. 

 

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I really appreciate all of the input, Nikki scared me a bit, but well, I'm a scaredy-cat.  wonderful advice.

 

Thanks so much.

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2 hours ago, Nikki Holiday said:

 

I did advise the OP in a PM that if he put in a bit of effort, it is absolutely possible to find two providers who could provide those references with no personal info. If you're really concerned about sharing information, that is certainly the absolutely safest option available. 

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On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 6:57 AM, contrails said:

 

Yep.  I've been burned by this from a provider who works out of LoDo and Interlocken

The sad thing is, when this happens, you are the one to suffer the financial and relationship damage. The provider suffers few, if any, consequences. If word gets around that a provider has done this to clients, all she has to do is announce her retirement, disappear for a month, and then reappear under a new name.  Now she is free to keep earning, and keep terrorizing clients.

 

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10 hours ago, Laplace said:

The sad thing is, when this happens, you are the one to suffer the financial and relationship damage. The provider suffers few, if any, consequences. If word gets around that a provider has done this to clients, all she has to do is announce her retirement, disappear for a month, and then reappear under a new name.  Now she is free to keep earning, and keep terrorizing clients.

 

So true. I posted a review on another board and I had gotten several pm's from guys who had the exact same problem with her. She was on a hiatus but I see she is back.

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11 hours ago, Laplace said:

The sad thing is, when this happens, you are the one to suffer the financial and relationship damage. The provider suffers few, if any, consequences. If word gets around that a provider has done this to clients, all she has to do is announce her retirement, disappear for a month, and then reappear under a new name.  Now she is free to keep earning, and keep terrorizing clients.

 

I'm going to take this opportunity to be the first one in this thread to post that post we always see when it comes to personal information and a client getting outed.........................................................

I have been in this hobby for 93 years. I have given escorts my phone number, address, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, my employer info, SS number, finger prints, skin grafts, DNA samples, and retinal scans. not once was I ever outed and you guys who claim you were are full of hooey.

(Disclaimer, just in case it didn't load I did click the sarcasm font)

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1 hour ago, boink36 said:

I'm going to take this opportunity to be the first one in this thread to post that post we always see when it comes to personal information and a client getting outed.........................................................

I have been in this hobby for 93 years. I have given escorts my phone number, address, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, my employer info, SS number, finger prints, skin grafts, DNA samples, and retinal scans. not once was I ever outed and you guys who claim you were are full of hooey.

(Disclaimer, just in case it didn't load I did click the sarcasm font)

This can't possibly be true! You're way too old to have only started 93 years ago! Also, you're unemployed, homeless, have no bank accounts, or credits cards, and your deformed condition (skinless obese midget), prevents fingerprints! I call bullshit! LOL! :)

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11 minutes ago, pfunk said:

This can't possibly be true! You're way too old to have only started 93 years ago! Also, you're unemployed, homeless, have no bank accounts, or credits cards, and your deformed condition (skinless obese midget), prevents fingerprints! I call bullshit! LOL! :)

Thats what getting outed does to a guy. :D

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Wow, it's worse than I remember. We don't even let people post things before we make fun of what they post. 

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