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I've never had a problem with clock watching but I'm always wondering and worrying:
 
1. When she tells you to call for directions and apartment number once you get to the condo, should you call sharp at your scheduled time or a few minutes before?

Sometimes it can take up to 10 minutes to park and get there. Are those minutes counting for my scheduled hour?

2. I always ask to take a quick shower before so playing time starts after the shower. Is that time already part of my scheduled hour?

So if the scheduled appointment is, say at 5pm, with the above mentioned, playing time could start at 5:15. What happens is that when it's already 6:00pm I start worrying because my time is supposedly up? :confused::confused:

 

 

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IMHO, the clock starts when you walk in her door.

So 1) No, 2) Yes. It's part of your hour.

I don't see a problem calling for final directions 5-10 minutes out, then sit tight (be on your phone if you want to disguise "waiting") to arrive on the dot unless she tells you otherwise. If she asks that you give her an extra 10 minutes, see the above (the clock starts when you walk in her door). 

 

Regarding 2), ask her to join you. Shower foreplay can be fun. She can be sure you're squeaky clean in all the hard to reach places. 😜

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Every provider is going to answer a little different. In my opinion, though, you should:

 

-Call a few minutes before the 'start' time for the room/apt number. About 5 minutes before is reasonable. You're not annoying, and you're not late. This will really cut down on how much 'lost' time even exists to be an issue. 

-Consider your shower (either before or after) as a part of the paid time. You're on her time doing something, it's paid. If the issue is she's in the shower making you wait, that's different, and a good provider isn't going to hold that against you. 

-Generally make an effort to have things wrapped up in the time agreed to. Sure, we love it when a provider isn't saying "tick tock, it's cum o'clock" but you've got to make the effort to not go over. Extra time is a bonus to you, not something you should expect. 

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13 minutes ago, Bora Bora said:
I've never had a problem with clock watching but I'm always wondering and worrying:
 
1. When she tells you to call for directions and apartment number once you get to the condo, should you call sharp at your scheduled time or a few minutes before?

Sometimes it can take up to 10 minutes to park and get there. Are those minutes counting for my scheduled hour?

2. I always ask to take a quick shower before so playing time starts after the shower. Is that time already part of my scheduled hour?

So if the scheduled appointment is, say at 5pm, with the above mentioned, playing time could start at 5:15. What happens is that when it's already 6:00pm I start worrying because my time is supposedly up? :confused::confused:

 

 

 If you schedule an hour at 5pm then your time is from 5 to 6. Cleanup time is part of session time. We providers base our schedules on that time and if everyone took an extra ten to shower it would screw up the whole schedule. Also if you're calling at the set appointment time for location you're late unless you know exactly where you're going and you're already there. If you're doing the two call thing it's always best to call about 5 minutes before, if you call 10 minutes before there's a good chance she won't answer because she's getting ready.

I think the majority try hard to not be clock watchers and we really appreciate it when the gent is mindful of his time.

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I find it funny how every provider says if time goes over it screws up time for the next client, i highly doubt that every provider is that busy scheduling back to back clients  or for that matter see 10 different clients? 

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51 minutes ago, stevie-2249 said:

I find it funny how every provider says if time goes over it screws up time for the next client, i highly doubt that every provider is that busy scheduling back to back clients  or for that matter see 10 different clients? 

If every gent who books an hour takes an extra 15 minutes things get screwed up.

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1 minute ago, Bit Banger said:

Running late can also effect a client's schedule, not just a provider's. 

no shit but that's not the topic of conversation. clients who have to ask whether or not a shower is on or off the clock need reminding that schedules and appointment times exist for a reason.

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1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

no shit but that's not the topic of conversation. clients who have to ask whether or not a shower is on or off the clock need reminding that schedules and appointment times exist for a reason.

Do they now?  I thought maybe he was asking because he wanted to understand what was SOP so that he could plan accordingly. 

On the 2-call system I've had providers not answer their phone until 5pm for that 5-6 appointment, even though the pay phone check point was nearly 10min away (check point 6th & Colorado, incall near Colfax & Monaco). So is that 10min part of the client's hour, or does his schedule pushed back? Perhaps he has a meeting at 7 on the other side of town. I've also arrived at the parking lot, only to be told she needed an extra 15min before I came upstairs.  Same question? My 1),2) answer was based on the implication that the OP was striving to arrive at the appointed time.

My point about client schedules was that people who aren't punctual effect the lives of others around them. Client? Provider? I don't care!

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1 hour ago, Bit Banger said:

Do they now?  I thought maybe he was asking because he wanted to understand what was SOP so that he could plan accordingly. 

On the 2-call system I've had providers not answer their phone until 5pm for that 5-6 appointment, even though the pay phone check point was nearly 10min away (check point 6th & Colorado, incall near Colfax & Monaco). So is that 10min part of the client's hour, or does his schedule pushed back? Perhaps he has a meeting at 7 on the other side of town. I've also arrived at the parking lot, only to be told she needed an extra 15min before I came upstairs.  Same question? My 1),2) answer was based on the implication that the OP was striving to arrive at the appointed time.

My point about client schedules was that people who aren't punctual effect the lives of others around them. Client? Provider? I don't care!

If she caused the delay, then I think a good provider isn't going to count it against your time. Some will, and it's up to you if you see them again. You can always ask to adjust the rate if your hour just changed to a half (probably not gonna happen), or straight cancel and put up a review. I'm not comfortable sitting in a parking lot for 15 minutes, so I'd probably leave. But it's your choice at that point. 

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Thank you for all your answers!!!

I won't get into any controversy and ruin the thread. I was just asking, we all have the right to ask and learn, and not be bullied for asking and trying to do things better out of respect for the ladies :P

 

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If the lady requires that you take a shower, that should not count against your time and she should plan for that.

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Generally speaking, the clock starts when it's supposed to unless otherwise agreed to.  Most certainly when I walk in the door, assuming I'm on time. 

A shower is not only painless, but frequently a delightful prelude.  Enjoy it.  Squeeky clean is our friend.  It's part of the deal, not in addition to.    

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I have always assumed my time starts when I walk through the door.  If I arrive late due to my lack of planning I assume time starts at the agreed to hour. If we agree to a 3 o'clock appt tome starts at 3 unless provider pushes time back then it is at first hello. JMO

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I am, first off, going to preface this with the following: in no way is this a referendum on the business practices of others, on how others' days are scheduled, or the importance others might place on their time vs the importance of leeway for shower time

 

 I may be in the minority here, but as a provider I have chosen to ALWAYS give deference to hygiene and cleanliness over squabbling over a few lousy minutes. Additionally, I choose not to schedule appointments in such a manner that a 10-15 minute shower will really affect much of anything. I also know that, for myself, I feel free to shine and know the sexy will just drip from my fingertips when I am confident in my appearance and hygiene, so I can only assume my (thoughtful) male counterparts are like-minded. And when things already run the risk of being initially awkward and a bit clumsy for some, the opportunity to mitigate even some of that "situational weirdness" is a welcome one, in my opinion. Again, this is not meant to disparage any of the other ladies out there whose practices do not mirror mine, but merely to communicate my personal preferences. e

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4 hours ago, Valentina-9802 said:

I am, first off, going to preface this with the following: in no way is this a referendum on the business practices of others, on how others' days are scheduled, or the importance others might place on their time vs the importance of leeway for shower time

 

 I may be in the minority here, but as a provider I have chosen to ALWAYS give deference to hygiene and cleanliness over squabbling over a few lousy minutes. Additionally, I choose not to schedule appointments in such a manner that a 10-15 minute shower will really affect much of anything. I also know that, for myself, I feel free to shine and know the sexy will just drip from my fingertips when I am confident in my appearance and hygiene, so I can only assume my (thoughtful) male counterparts are like-minded. And when things already run the risk of being initially awkward and a bit clumsy for some, the opportunity to mitigate even some of that "situational weirdness" is a welcome one, in my opinion. Again, this is not meant to disparage any of the other ladies out there whose practices do not mirror mine, but merely to communicate my personal preferences. e

Thank you Valentina! what a beautiful answer!

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Hm I don't know if this makes me feel good or bad. While I'm always on time (or nearly so), I've often had providers wait to tell me what room number until the exact time or a few after! Then the couple min walk up to the room. And of course a clock is always set fast haha. 

But I'm glad the consensus really is "when you get there if she made you wait." I decided not to see a few providers again because they decided to shave more than a few minutes off the start and end. Let's just say 5+ AND I'm not talking shower time at all.

So thanks for letting me know it's really not me haha.

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On 2/15/2016 at 9:58 AM, Valentina-9802 said:

I am, first off, going to preface this with the following: in no way is this a referendum on the business practices of others, on how others' days are scheduled, or the importance others might place on their time vs the importance of leeway for shower time

 

 I may be in the minority here, but as a provider I have chosen to ALWAYS give deference to hygiene and cleanliness over squabbling over a few lousy minutes. Additionally, I choose not to schedule appointments in such a manner that a 10-15 minute shower will really affect much of anything. I also know that, for myself, I feel free to shine and know the sexy will just drip from my fingertips when I am confident in my appearance and hygiene, so I can only assume my (thoughtful) male counterparts are like-minded. And when things already run the risk of being initially awkward and a bit clumsy for some, the opportunity to mitigate even some of that "situational weirdness" is a welcome one, in my opinion. Again, this is not meant to disparage any of the other ladies out there whose practices do not mirror mine, but merely to communicate my personal preferences. e

Best answer ever!!!!  If hygiene is the most important thing, why would one count that against appointment time if the gentleman is just trying to meet a minimum requirement after a long flight or long day at work?

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My 2 pennies on this topic:  If I'm worrying about 10 minutes than I'm booking my meetings waytooclosetogether.  It's 10 minutes.  Life isn't perfect.  People run a few minutes late, parking can take longer than originally thought, etc.  It may be different in Vegas but parking at one of the casinos and walking through can take 20-30 min (no joke!).  I factor that in and adjust my schedule accordingly.  As for showering during the appt (either before or after) tells me that as a client you care about being fresh and clean.  I don't consider that part of your hour and I'm happy that you care about personal hygiene as it's top on the list for me.  Now with all that said, I have had my time blatantly abused when it's obvious the time is up and the person doesn't want to leave.  That's not cool and I don't see that person again when it's apparent that they only want to pay for an hour but stay for two.  Respect is a 2 way street.  Respect my time and I'll show you the same respect.  For me sweating over 10 minutes isn't worth getting upset over.  I'd rather be enjoying myself doing other things ;)

Kimy xo

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4 hours ago, Kimy said:

My 2 pennies on this topic:  If I'm worrying about 10 minutes than I'm booking my meetings waytooclosetogether.:D For me sweating over 10 minutes isn't worth getting upset over.  I'd rather be enjoying myself doing other things ;)

Kimy xo

This is so true.

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10 hours ago, Kimy said:

My 2 pennies on this topic:  If I'm worrying about 10 minutes than I'm booking my meetings waytooclosetogether.  It's 10 minutes.  Life isn't perfect.  People run a few minutes late, parking can take longer than originally thought, etc.  It may be different in Vegas but parking at one of the casinos and walking through can take 20-30 min (no joke!).  I factor that in and adjust my schedule accordingly.  As for showering during the appt (either before or after) tells me that as a client you care about being fresh and clean.  I don't consider that part of your hour and I'm happy that you care about personal hygiene as it's top on the list for me.  Now with all that said, I have had my time blatantly abused when it's obvious the time is up and the person doesn't want to leave.  That's not cool and I don't see that person again when it's apparent that they only want to pay for an hour but stay for two.  Respect is a 2 way street.  Respect my time and I'll show you the same respect.  For me sweating over 10 minutes isn't worth getting upset over.  I'd rather be enjoying myself doing other things ;)

Kimy xo

OK... We have a tie at the top of the answer board!  Also the best answer ever!

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On 2/3/2016 at 6:15 PM, Bora Bora said:
I've never had a problem with clock watching but I'm always wondering and worrying:
 
1. When she tells you to call for directions and apartment number once you get to the condo, should you call sharp at your scheduled time or a few minutes before?

Sometimes it can take up to 10 minutes to park and get there. Are those minutes counting for my scheduled hour?

2. I always ask to take a quick shower before so playing time starts after the shower. Is that time already part of my scheduled hour?

So if the scheduled appointment is, say at 5pm, with the above mentioned, playing time could start at 5:15. What happens is that when it's already 6:00pm I start worrying because my time is supposedly up? :confused::confused:

 

 

I would almost expect you to call a bit early so you can make it in the room in time and not mess up either one of our schedules.  The time starts when you enter the room which should be on time.  I understand that parking can be tricky at times so I don't make a big deal out of 5 or 10 minutes late.  You do have the option to shower however, that will come out of your time.

 

I'm expecting to see you at a certain time for an agreed on amount of time.  I have a personal life as well.  If we agree on 90 minutes at 5 pm, I'm expecting to be with you between 5 and 6:30.  If you choose to shower, it's between  5 and 6:30.  That's the time we agreed on.  For the record, quite a few of my clients do shower, it really doesn't take them that long.  

 

Don't ever wait until your time is up then ask to shower.  That's disrespectful.

 

Namaste

Becca

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14 hours ago, Becca_Blossoms said:

I would almost expect you to call a bit early so you can make it in the room in time and not mess up either one of our schedules.  The time starts when you enter the room which should be on time.  I understand that parking can be tricky at times so I don't make a big deal out of 5 or 10 minutes late.  You do have the option to shower however, that will come out of your time.

 

I'm expecting to see you at a certain time for an agreed on amount of time.  I have a personal life as well.  If we agree on 90 minutes at 5 pm, I'm expecting to be with you between 5 and 6:30.  If you choose to shower, it's between  5 and 6:30.  That's the time we agreed on.  For the record, quite a few of my clients do shower, it really doesn't take them that long.  

 

Don't ever wait until your time is up then ask to shower.  That's disrespectful.

 

Namaste

Becca

Hi Becca,

So you would rather play with a guy that has been sweating all day on his job than let him take a quick shower to rinse off the grime?

Just asking and don't want to start a flame war here!

As long as you are OK with sweaty dudes, that is great!  However, if your requirement is shiny and clean, I am not sure I understand why the guy loses time as it is your requiement.  The guy doesn't care if he smells!  No skin off his back...

Every guy in the hobby is not a Dr, Lawyer or Indian Chief!  Some of us may occasionally pick up some grime or produce some sweat!  If you are willing to make it a joint shower where play is involved, I am all over that!  However, if it is a solo shower to meet your minimum cleanliness requirements, I will take umbrage with that.

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37 minutes ago, Riggo said:

Hi Becca,

So you would rather play with a guy that has been sweating all day on his job than let him take a quick shower to rinse off the grime?

Just asking and don't want to start a flame war here!

As long as you are OK with sweaty dudes, that is great!  However, if your requirement is shiny and clean, I am not sure I understand why the guy loses time as it is your requiement.  The guy doesn't care if he smells!  No skin off his back...

Every guy in the hobby is not a Dr, Lawyer or Indian Chief!  Some of us may occasionally pick up some grime or produce some sweat!  If you are willing to make it a joint shower where play is involved, I am all over that!  However, if it is a solo shower to meet your minimum cleanliness requirements, I will take umbrage with that.

First, your language indicates you DO want to flame her. 

Second, if you book an appointment at 3pm, you arrive at 3 pm, and you are dirty and sweaty, do you expect the provider to eat 15 minutes because you couldn't squeeze a shower in? 

That's some bullshit right there. 

 

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14 minutes ago, pfunk said:

If you book an appointment at 3pm, you arrive at 3 pm, and you are dirty and sweaty, do you expect the provider to eat 15 minutes because you couldn't squeeze a shower in? 

That's some bullshit right there.

 

To the stinky guys that say "no I am good I don't need to shower". Prepare yourself for some humiliation from me! I will let you know you stink if you stink! You will smell yourself because I will stick my finger up your ass and drag it straight through your nostrils! Sorry but that is so unsanitary that it is just a REAL turn off!

I honestly rarely encounter a individual that is like this. Time is Time and us ladies try our best to accommodate your need with in the time limit.

 

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49 minutes ago, pfunk said:

First, your language indicates you DO want to flame her. 

Second, if you book an appointment at 3pm, you arrive at 3 pm, and you are dirty and sweaty, do you expect the provider to eat 15 minutes because you couldn't squeeze a shower in? 

That's some bullshit right there. 

 

Whoa Sir Gallahad!  Stable your white steed!  I was not flaming and said a mutual shower was an amazing thing!  The Metropolitan opera would like it if I showed up in a tux, but it is not required as I paid for the ticket.  I pay for my time with a lovely lady and if she requires me to be spanky clean,  I would hope she joined me in the shower to get to that state!  The OP wants to please the ladies and was wondering if his shower counted against the time.  If the lady requires spic and span, it should not count against the time as two of the previous ladies have previously stated.  If the lovely lady does not care, a shower should not be required.  I have not had a single lady require that I shower in my brief hobby career, but there may be those that do.  I asked Becca a simple question, no need for you to ride to her rescue! 

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1 hour ago, Riggo said:

Whoa Sir Gallahad!  Stable your white steed!  I was not flaming and said a mutual shower was an amazing thing!  The Metropolitan opera would like it if I showed up in a tux, but it is not required as I paid for the ticket.  I pay for my time with a lovely lady and if she requires me to be spanky clean,  I would hope she joined me in the shower to get to that state!  The OP wants to please the ladies and was wondering if his shower counted against the time.  If the lady requires spic and span, it should not count against the time as two of the previous ladies have previously stated.  If the lovely lady does not care, a shower should not be required.  I have not had a single lady require that I shower in my brief hobby career, but there may be those that do.  I asked Becca a simple question, no need for you to ride to her rescue! 

Showers are mandatory for providers who have been burned by lack of hygiene. It's not like ladies are trying to shave time off the clock they're just trying to avoid skid marks on the sheets. Sometimes it's easier to enforce a rule for everyone than to pick and choose and make the stinky guy feel bad. Shower play is fun but if it's a sweaty or dingle berry covered dude I will not be joining until you are clean.

You may not have to wear a tux to an opera but you're also not getting naked with it.I wouldn't go to my gynecologist and not wash my cooter because that is just common courtesy. Guys should show up as clean as possible and plan on using their time if they're not clean enough. 

I don't see in Ms. Becca's post where spic and span was her requirement and showers were forced but that they are available if needed or wanted. And in all seriousness it takes like 90 seconds to get in a good rinse. Are you really wanting that extra minute and a half?

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11 hours ago, Riggo said:

 If the lady requires spic and span, it should not count against the time as two of the previous ladies have previously stated. 

This makes no sense whatsoever. If she states upfront that you need to be clean, then it's up to you to show up clean. If she states that everyone takes a shower, then you know, when you schedule, that you MUST take a shower. How is it anyone's responsibility, except yours, to cover the time it takes to shower? If the provider allows for that, she's being kind and generous. She certainly doesn't owe you.

Again, that's some bullshit. (calling me a white knight, and thowing in digs about rescuing, demonstrates your entitled childish mentality.)

 

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12 hours ago, Riggo said:

Whoa Sir Gallahad!  Stable your white steed!  I was not flaming and said a mutual shower was an amazing thing!  The Metropolitan opera would like it if I showed up in a tux, but it is not required as I paid for the ticket.  I pay for my time with a lovely lady and if she requires me to be spanky clean,  I would hope she joined me in the shower to get to that state!  The OP wants to please the ladies and was wondering if his shower counted against the time.  If the lady requires spic and span, it should not count against the time as two of the previous ladies have previously stated.  If the lovely lady does not care, a shower should not be required.  I have not had a single lady require that I shower in my brief hobby career, but there may be those that do.  I asked Becca a simple question, no need for you to ride to her rescue! 

Riggo,

I've enjoyed your posts.  And you seem like a nice guy.  So I'm not going to come down hard on you.  But, I disagree with you and agree with PFunk.  Here's why:

Being clean and fresh for a lady (and let's  be frank here: a total-stranger-lady who is about to do the nasty with you) is not a law.  If you smell bad, the hooker police are not going to haul you off to john-jail.

But it IS good manners.  Civilized gentlemen are always properly groomed, and clean.  And, Civilized gentlemen ALWAYS get superior service from the honest, professional ladies.

Now, you schedule a block of time with the lady.  To her, time really IS money.  But your post seems to suggest that the lady should bear the cost (by giving you free shower time) of YOU doing what you should be doing anyway: being a civilized gentleman. This is not right.

Now there are times when life dictates that you show up stinky.  So be it.  The ladies understand this.  So, you do the gentlemanly thing and get clean using her facilities ON YOUR TIME.  Never charge someone else for simply doing the right thing.

 

One final point, and I have never received an answer for this. Why....when a man is simply trying to exhibit proper manners and behaviors....why is he a "White knight?"

 

Be a gentleman.  Take pride in your gentlemanliness.

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