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What's a 10?

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25 minutes ago, Raoul said:

She has some reviews. And she's not the only one. Sometimes the code is VIP service or VIP package. And the new review system allows BB as a provided service for those who choose full disclosure.

Me personally, I'm only good for about 35 seconds uncovered so the ROI is not very good. I don't even like BB when I'm alone :cool:

I don't know what girl your talking about. I didn't know that VIP sometimes means BB. I'll have to remove that from my ads. This the first Iv ever heard of VIP means BB. 

I'm not sure what to tell you about Pre-mature ejulaction. Perhaps you could see your doctor for that idk. Im sorry. 

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14 hours ago, pfunk said:

Yes. My guess is you, and I, are both 3s.  It's a wonder we ever get any, even with money. :)

(tongue in cheek) Hey Pfunk, don't feel bad, I am a 4  in his category/ Barely up above a Colfax hooker. Guess according to those criteria I should be sticking that foot on a grave and the other on a banana peel. Now let me find my walker.........

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28 minutes ago, Nikki Holiday said:

Pre-mature ejulaction.

Don't ever change, Nikki. Stay just the way you are. :D Ejulaction gets my vote for a word that isn't a word, but should be.

Sorry for the hijack. Well done shout out to the op. Good thread.

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4 hours ago, Nikki Holiday said:

This very true.

While just a very few of you guys say I'm not seeing her because she offers BB. Trust me... A provider offering BB is not missing your business at all. They can't keep up. 

That's the catch, as far as I'm concerned.  Would I prefer BB?  Of course I would.  The problem is that if it's offered to me that means it's offered to everyone, and that's EXACTLY the reason I would be terrified to go through with it, covered or not. 

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1 hour ago, Keyser said:

That's the catch, as far as I'm concerned.  Would I prefer BB?  Of course I would.  The problem is that if it's offered to me that means it's offered to everyone, and that's EXACTLY the reason I would be terrified to go through with it, covered or not. 

Doesn't make any difference and let me explain why do you know how many guys are seeing girls that offer BB they don't advertise it they don't review it and the same guys go and see all the girls who don't offer it. As far as I'm concerned it doesn't make a difference at this point. 

For example providers mentioning VIP Could possibly mean bareback.  I learned this today from a previous post on this very thread. I had no idea until today.  I don't even think that's in urban dictionary

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44 minutes ago, Nikki Holiday said:

For example providers mentioning VIP Could possibly mean bareback.  I learned this today from a previous post on this very thread. I had no idea until today.  I don't even think that's in urban dictionary

I don't mean to suggest that is common usage. I was referring to some specific reviews here on TOB that I have seen where that was how it was used. To me it will always mean very impressive pussy :cool:

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7 hours ago, Raoul said:

These should be familiar to many of us.

  RATING   LOOKS  
10 She was a one in a million.
9 She was model material.
8 She was really hot.
7 She was attractive.
6 She was nice looking.
5 She was plain looking
4 OK, If you are drunk
3 She was fairly homely.
2 She was simply ugly.
1 I was really scared.
 
 
 
  RATING   PERFORMANCE  
10 It was a one in a million.
9 I forgot it was a service.
8 She went the extra mile.
7 It was really hot
6 It was a nice time.
5 Average
4 She just laid there.
3 It was barely worth the effort.
2 I should have stayed home.
1 A total rip-off.
 

For performance ratings, it is asked that you please save the 8, 9, and 10 ranks for situations where out of the ordinary services are provided (i.e. Blow Job - without condom, Kissing - with tongue, Anal - Yes, and Really Bi - Yes, More than One Guy - Yes). Of course, the 10 rating should be reserved for an experience that is really worth a million!

An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum.

This does not mean she earns extra points for offering these service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she offers, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score.

If your review rates a provider higher than her maximum score, the score will be adjusted down to her maximum. 

While I am not a fan of this particular system and the way it works in practice, I think it has fairly wide acceptance. 

These aren't really standards. Also for those on Twitter there is a pretty big campaign against TER and their review system. It's less accepted and more just tolerated.

Not allowing a provider higher marks because she doesn't do butt stuff isn't a standard. It's manipulative. Higher marks for unsafe services (yes BBBJ is an unsafe service) is also manipulative.

Those standards are similar to those that try to be set here, by the client and not the provider.

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32 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

These aren't really standards. Also for those on Twitter there is a pretty big campaign against TER and their review system. It's less accepted and more just tolerated.

Not allowing a provider higher marks because she doesn't do butt stuff isn't a standard. It's manipulative. Higher marks for unsafe services (yes BBBJ is an unsafe service) is also manipulative.

Those standards are similar to those that try to be set here, by the client and not the provider.

Of course they're standards, applicable to TER reviews, though I'll agree that they are not ISO.  (Nor do I agree with them.  One of the reasons I don't participate in TER.)  I believe they were posted in this thread to refute the claim that there were no written standards. 

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On 1/23/2016 at 4:14 PM, LesisMore said:

After having relied on several member reviews to screen and choose my investments in the ladies, I find that "10" is a very overused rating and/or my expectations are a bit higher than most.   I felt compelled to offer my opinion on "What's a 10".

Looks:

10 = A Victoria Secret model

 9 = A Victoria Secret model in waiting, just about to be discovered

 8 = Turns the heads of everybody in the room (ladies too) when she walk in.   Creates a "woodie" just by brushing up against you as she walks by.

 7 = The very attractive "Girl next Door" that you've always wanted to "do"

 6 = The average YL in your college class

 5 = The average MILF in the neighborhood

4 = The average MILF over 50

3 = The talent found in most massage parlors

2 = A 60 year old MILF from Kentucky (found on Colfax Ave)

1 = You don't wanna know!

Performance / Service:

10 = Eyes roll back in the clients AND providers head when you climax together

 9 = Eyes roll back in my head and I black out for a few minutes

 8 = A top notch PSE/GFE session where she's really into you, is very vocal, and you're both covered in sweat when it's finished

 7= A quality session with a pretty lady that leaves you wanting to come back again

 6 = A quality session, worth what you paid, but probably not a repeat

 5 = You got off, not worth what you paid, and not a repeat

 4 = 3G (Got in, Got Off, Got Out)

 3 = Same as #4 but with a 2-4 in terms of looks

2 = She scared you, hurt you, and you never want to have sex again

1 = Turns out "she" was LE

Thoughts?   Am I being too harsh?   I'm just trying to level the playing field so the truly top notch gals stand out from the crowd.

If I have a doubles session with two "5"'s,  does that count as a "10"? How about a 6 and a 4? A 7 and a 3? Just wondering...

The Wise Old Owl

Numbers are not my strong suit...

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Ill pass on the VS model types.  I like em thick.  Not fat.. THICK (;

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13 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

Of course they're standards, applicable to TER reviews, though I'll agree that they are not ISO.  (Nor do I agree with them.  One of the reasons I don't participate in TER.)  I believe they were posted in this thread to refute the claim that there were no written standards. 

They are still not written standards. Not being fat and doing butt stuff are not standards. Like I said they are manipulations and if you actually disagree with their rules why would you still consider it a standard?

Those are their rules for writing reviews not to be confused with standards. Standards for providers imply more universality. If you don't use TER then those aren't your standards and therefore don't actually apply.

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50 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

They are still not written standards. Not being fat and doing butt stuff are not standards. Like I said they are manipulations and if you actually disagree with their rules why would you still consider it a standard?

Those are their rules for writing reviews not to be confused with standards. Standards for providers imply more universality. If you don't use TER then those aren't your standards and therefore don't actually apply.

Whatever 🙄

I suppose you won't be satisfied until they're published on ASTM.org

Are you a Kgs or an Lbs kind of gal? 😏

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4 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

Whatever 🙄

I suppose you won't be satisfied until they're published on ASTM.org

Are you a Kgs or an Lbs kind of gal? 😏

Kilograms is mass

Pounds is force: mass in Earths gravity.

Should be Newtons vs pounds if weight.

Kilograms vs Slugs if mass.

Get it right, mister. We're talking standards, here.

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54 minutes ago, Laplace said:

Kilograms is mass

Pounds is force: mass in Earths gravity.

Should be Newtons vs pounds if weight.

Kilograms vs Slugs if mass.

Get it right, mister. We're talking standards, here.

😀 Yup. Got me. I got led astray by the conversion chart which popped up on my phone. That and it's been 40+ years since I've used newtons, joules, and pascals.

btw: is that what those shell-less snails are doing in my garden😜

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The responses to my post reinforces the fact that not many people like to be rated (particularly if the rating = average) and that all rating systems have a far bit of bias and subjectivity to them.   A very interesting discussion.   My take-a-way would be that the all important questions "Would you see her again?" and "Would you recommend her to others?" should carry a lot more weight than the other more subjective ratings.  Beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder and performance is VERY dependent on the chemistry between client and provider.   I'm very appreciative of the ladies I've visited and am very happy most of them have done their best to satisfy this "average white guy".   I'll be forever grateful (and a repeat client) of those couple that have made lasting memories and are repeat visitors in my dreams.

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
phrase of beauty
 
  1. 1.
    proverb
    beauty cannot be judged objectively, for what one person finds beautiful or admirable may not appeal to another.

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But... If I am not mistaken lol... Isn't Bo Derek the real "10" lol? ;-)~

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17 minutes ago, Scarlett Dayne said:
But... If I am not mistaken lol... Isn't Bo Derek the real "10" lol? ;-)~

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I was one of the many who thought so at the time. But then she spoke and dropped to a 9.8. And in retrospect, the corn rows and beads were unfortunate. So a solid 9.6.

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52 minutes ago, Scarlett Dayne said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
phrase of beauty
 
  1. 1.
    proverb
    beauty cannot be judged objectively, for what one person finds beautiful or admirable may not appeal to another.

_____________________________________________________________

But... If I am not mistaken lol... Isn't Bo Derek the real "10" lol? ;-)~

yrikmicflleydambmvfj.jpg

At the time this picture was taken?  Not so much.  As Raoul said, the corn rows didn't help.  Decent figure, and not Twiggy.  Maybe a 9.

Today?  Definitely cougar-lish-a-lous.  Still a solid 8

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Do two 5's make a 10? Like if you had twins who were each a 5, and they came as a package deal lol hee hee?

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What do we think it would cost to find a Victoria's Secret model who would provide us with such great service that our eyes roll back in our heads?  5k, 10k?  I grade on a scale.  The top 10% most attractive get rated a 10, the next 10% get a 9 and so on.  Same think for service, top 10% get a 10 and so on.

I've noticed a lot of 10s in the ratings lately myself, I just chalk it up to more guys doing their homework, reading reviews, and finding ladies that are suited to their likes.

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5 hours ago, Scarlett Dayne said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
phrase of beauty
 
  1. 1.
    proverb
    beauty cannot be judged objectively, for what one person finds beautiful or admirable may not appeal to another.

_____________________________________________________________

But... If I am not mistaken lol... Isn't Bo Derek the real "10" lol? ;-)~

yrikmicflleydambmvfj.jpg

[Sarcasm font on

Scarlett, you are only body shaming the thick girls by posting that picture. :rolleyes:

Sarcasm font off] :D

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6 hours ago, Scarlett Dayne said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
phrase of beauty
 
  1. 1.
    proverb
    beauty cannot be judged objectively, for what one person finds beautiful or admirable may not appeal to another.

_____________________________________________________________

But... If I am not mistaken lol... Isn't Bo Derek the real "10" lol? ;-)~

yrikmicflleydambmvfj.jpg

How many of you are hearing the strains of Ravel's Bolero when looking at this image?

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38 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

How many of you are hearing the strains of Ravel's Bolero when looking at this image?

Yeah. But this was the pic that did it for me...jeez, check the date :o

Playboy magazine with Bo Derek.

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1 hour ago, boink36 said:

[Sarcasm font on

Scarlett, you are only body shaming the thick girls by posting that picture. :rolleyes:

Sarcasm font off] :D

I have always thought Bo Derek was a wee tad on the too skinny side, but I think that's just her natural body size... tiny lol. She's 59 years old now, a Scorpio, still gorgeous as all get out and just as skinny as she was in her 20's... Bitch lol hee hee }:-(

Feel like I'm doing okay too... I weigh 2-3 lbs more than I did when I was in high school. Same weight just different locations for some of my parts lol ha ha ;-)~

I like thick girls! Before I moved to Colorado I used to go to this sex club/open lifestyle club many moons ago to meet up with this thicker blond girl every weekend. She was a lot of fun to play around with in the hot tub. Ahhhh.... She had the best tits!! I never needed a life-jacket since I already had 2 floaties to hold me safely above water lol ;-)~

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Based on the OP's grading scale (if redirected to males), I am somewhere in the 3-4 range except I have teeth and am not from Tennessee.  If I rated myself based on what I judge the ladies I like to see, I would be closer to a 10.  I am a perfect gentleman, fun to be around, love conversation, love to laugh and love to cuddle.  The categories being  limited to looks and performance make it difficult to judge.

Almost every lovely lady I have met with is a 10 in both because for the looks category I have to include the following:

Pleasant on the eye:  very few naked ladies fail to meet this requirement because I am a male. :-)

Sense of humor:  This does not fall under performance because I assume this is not related to performance.

Willing to pretend I am beautiful:  This one could be performance related as she has to act as if I am beautiful. :-)

Nice laugh and smile:  This one could be both performance and looks.

Good conversationalist:  This one for me could fall into both looks and performance.

Bottom line is that I look for a lady that I feel comfortable with, like conversing with and will have fun with!

Like Laplace said, if a woman that is way above my normal target audience and she is willing to spend time with me, SHE IS A TEN!!!!

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This is so easy it's complicated. 

If you are skinny and your advertising truthfully. The guys who like skinny girls will call you. 

If your a curvy girl and big boobs and big butt with a little extra padding the guys who Iike that will call. 

If your a BBW and you advertise as a BBW then the guys who like BBW will call those girls. 

Great way to piss a guy off who is paying you partly for "YOUR LOOKS" (that's what enticed him in the first place) for false advertising is going to be pist off. You won't ever be his 10. It doesn't matter if your skinny curvy or BBW. 

If your skinny don't advertise falsely.

if your curvy don't advertise falsely.

if your BBW don't advertise falsely.

Let's be real here men are different than wemon. They are visual creatures. Everyone has different taste. 

Some guys love twigs. Some guys love big fat girls. Some guys love cubby girls. Some guys like all 3types of girls. Some guys don't give a fuck and just want there dick sucked or get laid. 

Now if your curvy girl and you lie... That guy might not like curvy girls. Your not going ever be his VS model no matter what.

If your a skinny girl and you got no tits or ass and your claiming your curvy that guy is going to like dam I was hoping for little padding on the back of her ass. This shit going to hurt. He ducks you really hard... Now your bitching it's hurts. He thinking... You lied and said you had pading when you didn't. 😂😂😂

If your BBW and claim your not in anyway... Some guys can't even get hard on with this and it's game over.😷😷😷😷

Bottom line don't lie about your looks and you won't have a problem..,,,ok the the VODKA has kicked in. Im checking out. 

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22 hours ago, Scarlett Dayne said:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
phrase of beauty
 
  1. 1.
    proverb
    beauty cannot be judged objectively, for what one person finds beautiful or admirable may not appeal to another.

_____________________________________________________________

But... If I am not mistaken lol... Isn't Bo Derek the real "10" lol? ;-)~

yrikmicflleydambmvfj.jpg

Too skinny for me. 

 

 

 

 

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On 1/23/2016 at 4:14 PM, LesisMore said:

After having relied on several member reviews to screen and choose my investments in the ladies, I find that "10" is a very overused rating and/or my expectations are a bit higher than most.


I can't see myself throwing out many 10's anymore.  Prior to the new system, two would rate a '10' on my physical appearance scale and five would rate a '10' on my service scale.  The first scale is subjective, reflecting my personal tastes.  I treat the service scale more objectively.  In my case, it's not necessarily what a provider does but how she does it.  I've thought about it and I can honestly say that I could issue a '10' to providers that only provided two of the acronyms.  Because men are visual creatures it might be easy for the appearance scale to influence the service scale but I consciously try to keep them completely separate entities.

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On 1/24/2016 at 9:43 PM, Lucy Kitten said:

As much as every provider would like to claim a toe-curling, black out, mutual climax experience it's just not reasonable. It's not reasonable to expect it from either end. What about men that aren't really able to perform? Do they not ever get 10 experiences because they can't experience it like you do? What about compatibility? That's not a guarantee and it's nobodies fault so does it still deserve a low rating? What if a session is bad and it's the fault of the client? So many variables. 

 

Forgive the clumsy analogy, but suppose I go get a hamburger.  I receive the hamburger and rate it based on my expectations.  I had no input as to the quality of ingredients used to make the hamburger, the preparation of the hamburger nor its presentation.  The hobby is different.  Your experience is built upon the interaction you had with the provider.  I strongly believe if you enter into a session with a positive attitude and are willing to put forth some effort into making the encounter enjoyable for both of you, chances are good she will rock your world.  The service rating is influenced by your own actions and attitude.

There have been times I have chosen not to write a review.  Sometimes the provider already had quite a few reviews that were in line with my experience -- I didn't feel it necessary to add my two cents.  Other times the session, through no fault of the provider, didn't go as well I as would have hoped.  If the lady is demonstrably putting forth a lot of effort to see to it that your time together is special but you two just don't click, I don't think it's fair to negatively influence a providers income stream for lack of chemistry.  On occasion, you have to look in the mirror to understand why a session did not meet expectations.

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