AkilahRose

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Akilah your a super lady.    [Snip}   You don't deserve to b treated like the.  Glad u r safe.   

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Probably not getting the whole story here. I don't mean to seem like I'm attacking your post, but if he complained when he arrived, why not ask him to leave immediately?

It sounds like a session never really occurred. Am I wrong? Then why is he wrong in picking up an envelope he left on the counter? Honestly, if no real session occurred (I'm assuming here because that's all the information I have to go on by your description) why not just give this turd his money back and get him the fuck out the door?

Lastly, men. When they argue with women and they want to hurt them. They don't call a beautiful woman ugly. That doesn't even make sense. They say she is a whore or she's an idiot or basically just go for the low blow, really. 

I'm crazy, most people know that, but this sounds like a woman who visited you. Not a man.

I guess it doesn't really matter. A piece of shit is still a piece of shit if it has a penis or not. My only concern about this post is ... well read sentence 1 and 2 above.

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8 hours ago, Century Santiago said:

Probably not getting the whole story here. I don't mean to seem like I'm attacking your post, but if he complained when he arrived, why not ask him to leave immediately?

It sounds like a session never really occurred. Am I wrong? Then why is he wrong in picking up an envelope he left on the counter? Honestly, if no real session occurred (I'm assuming here because that's all the information I have to go on by your description) why not just give this turd his money back and get him the fuck out the door?

Lastly, men. When they argue with women and they want to hurt them. They don't call a beautiful woman ugly. That doesn't even make sense. They say she is a whore or she's an idiot or basically just go for the low blow, really. 

I'm crazy, most people know that, but this sounds like a woman who visited you. Not a man.

I guess it doesn't really matter. A piece of shit is still a piece of shit if it has a penis or not. My only concern about this post is ... well read sentence 1 and 2 above.

You should read the whole thread, before posting. She makes it quite clear that the "session" did occur. 

 

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On December 21, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Laplace said:

While I strongly agree with the concept of well-armed women, DAMN, that's quite an arsenal!

 

I can see it now:

Laplace: "Hi Nikki" 

Nikki "Hi Laplace"

Laplace: Fumbles the envelope to the floor while placing it.

Laplace+Nikki: Epic 3 stooges head bonk while both go for the envelope

Nikki: <slash> <slash>

Nikki: <Shprittzz!>  <brrrrrZZZZAPPP!>

Nikki: <BANG!> <BANG!BANG!BANG!>

Laplace's Last Words:  "Nice grouping!"

OMG I just seen this.....too funny Laplace

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Chisum is totally correct on the firearms. I you are not ready to follow through, the gun can be taken away from you and he will shoot you with your own gun.

It's called dry practice, which should be done a a daily basis. On of the best training facilities in the US is Front Sight in Nevada.

Just my @ cents worth

 

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12 hours ago, Century Santiago said:

Probably not getting the whole story here. I don't mean to seem like I'm attacking your post, but if he complained when he arrived, why not ask him to leave immediately?

It sounds like a session never really occurred. Am I wrong? Then why is he wrong in picking up an envelope he left on the counter? Honestly, if no real session occurred (I'm assuming here because that's all the information I have to go on by your description) why not just give this turd his money back and get him the fuck out the door?

I didn't read it that way at all.  I could absolutely picture a situation in which the guy was kind of an asshole to start - not enough that she would want to kick him out, but maybe enough that she wouldn't set up another meeting if he emailed her again. But then he kept pushing further until asking to renegotiate her fee at the end.  
 

Sorry this happened to you Akilah.

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16 hours ago, Century Santiago said:

Probably not getting the whole story here. I don't mean to seem like I'm attacking your post, I normally don't stick up for providers. We all know this. I don't lie about it either and I don't pretend I do. With that being said, when I read Akilah's post. It seems legit and truthful. If the guy wanted to he can respond. So far he hasn't.  

but if he complained when he arrived, why not ask him to leave immediately? Usually providers who are very good with clients like Akilah and are not used to this type of poor attitude... let me just say this, Im pretty sure the next ass hole will be asked to leave. We all live an learn on some level. 

It sounds like a session never really occurred. Am I wrong? Did you read her postings? She admits publicly the session took place.

Here is a copy and paste of her post. "After he tried taking his money back and when I wouldn't give it to him, he tried to say he only wants to pay $100 and thats all he ever pays lol I laughed at him and told him I would have never responded to him if he tried to see me for $100 he then tried to push past me to go after his money I then told him he needed to leave before I call security... He left calling me a few curse words and called me ugly lol" End of post. Please notice the word "AFTER" in her post.

Then why is he wrong in picking up an envelope he left on the counter? I think you misread her posting. This mean he is ripping her off. Ripping off a provider when she clearly, went though with session, is unacceptable behavior by the client. I would have TAZORED his ass and drug him out the front door. lol :P (JK that is for Laplace, I think he likes it!! lol :P) I would ask him to leave., unless he deserves to be mistreated otherwise. 

Honestly, if no real session occurred (I'm assuming here because that's all the information I have to go on by your description) why not just give this turd his money back and get him the fuck out the door? Im sure next time she will give him his money back and send him out the door. 

Lastly, men. When they argue with women and they want to hurt them. They don't call a beautiful woman ugly. That doesn't even make sense. They say she is a whore or she's an idiot or basically just go for the low blow, really. I'm crazy, most people know that, but this sounds like a woman who visited you. Not a man

Men who are idiots, (sorry guys this comment is meant only intended for this special asshole  who gave Akilah hard way to go) do call providers ugly. lol Sometimes there not smart enough to go for the low blow right our the gate. 

A piece of shit is still a piece of shit if it has a penis or not

Your absolutely right. I couldn't agree more. 

 

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On 12/19/2015 at 4:47 PM, geecue2 said:

Sorry that happened to you, I think you would have been alright posting it except his name and his phone number, and email addy . 

I think this is why the ladies need a private forum kinda like ECCIE has... The guys need one too.. It's a bummer when they can look and see if an alert was posted on either side(hobbyist or escort) and  then the person can change their whole routine and get another girl/guy. Over and over again... 

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On 12/21/2015 at 8:18 PM, AkilahRose said:

No no lol we started the session and he complained the whole time, finally "finished" the session and thats when he wanted his money back  

You mean you don't have a money back guarantee? :D

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2 hours ago, Nikki Holiday said:

 

It's possible (I'm not saying that this is what happened!) that he showed up with his crappy attitude, had a quick session, and expected something back for the shorter time. He's wrong, of course. If you pay for 60, but are out in 30, you (the guy) have something do with that. I've had it happen to me, but not her fault - don't try to change the envelope. 

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On December 22, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Chrissy said:

I think this is why the ladies need a private forum kinda like ECCIE has... The guys need one too.. It's a bummer when they can look and see if an alert was posted on either side(hobbyist or escort) and  then the person can change their whole routine and get another girl/guy. Over and over again... 

It sounds good in theory but what do you put in place to deL with retaliation from either party. As you have mentioned any negativity can have an affect... What if you were falsely accused, how would you know something negative was posted? how do you clear your name? The intent is great but the concern is that user that intends harm by making false statements..

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1 hour ago, TheWhisperer said:

It sounds good in theory but what do you put in place to deL with retaliation from either party. As you have mentioned any negativity can have an affect... What if you were falsely accused, how would you know something negative was posted? how do you clear your name? The intent is great but the concern is that user that intends harm by making false statements..

A forum would be easier than the other options.  There is currently nothing in place that would prevent the lovely ladies from doing a PM version of a calling tree so that they all eventually get the information that the client is a tool, even if he wasn't!

Frankly, I think he deserves it. :-)

Bottom line is if you are a gentleman, you are probably not at risk and will not need the opportunity to submit a rebuttal.

Just my 2 cents...

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22 minutes ago, Riggo said:

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Bottom line is if you are a gentleman, you are probably not at risk and will not need the opportunity to submit a rebuttal.

Just my 2 cents...

Unfortunately we do have examples of clients being black-listed or outed for submitting a less than FANTASTIC review (still a VERY GOOD, as I recall.). Just as there are problem clients, there are problem providers. I suspect the incidence rate is about the same. The ladies have more horror stories because they have a greater exposure (i.e. more sessions). 

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6 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

Unfortunately we do have examples of clients being black-listed or outed for submitting a less than FANTASTIC review (still a VERY GOOD, as I recall.). Just as there are problem clients, there are problem providers. I suspect the incidence rate is about the same. The ladies have more horror stories because they have a greater exposure (i.e. more sessions). 

I understand, but like I said, there is nothing in place from preventing the ladies from having a pseudo calling tree where she tells two friends and they tell two friends... etc.  It can happen whether or not a forum exists.

At least a forum could be moderated where a calling tree can not.

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Actually a calling tree is moderated by its members. 

Consider: Each lady, when receiving a call may evaluate the validity of the information based on the caller's reputation or the original source of the complaint AND possibly her own experience with the gentleman in question. She may then decide to: pass the information on intact, pass the complaint along with her own observations regarding the client, or pass on her evaluation of the originator's story. 

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10 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

Actually a calling tree is moderated by its members. 

Consider: Each lady, when receiving a call may evaluate the validity of the information based on the caller's reputation or the original source of the complaint AND possibly her own experience with the gentleman in question. She may then decide to: pass the information on intact, pass the complaint along with her own observations regarding the client, or pass on her evaluation of the originator's story. 

As would be a ladies only section.

Provider A:  Ladies be warned, I just saw Fred1234 and he was an ass!

Provider B: I saw him last week and he was a perfect gentleman and even  left a tip!

Same thing...

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38 minutes ago, Riggo said:

As would be a ladies only section.

Provider A:  Ladies be warned, I just saw Fred1234 and he was an ass!

Provider B: I saw him last week and he was a perfect gentleman and even  left a tip!

Same thing...

Agreed!

The ideal is a 'public' review forum for both providers and clients.  This should provide for moderation & rebuttal. (BTW, I like TOB's "one response" policy. It prevents the nasty back & forth I've seen on other boards.)

The problem with a 'public' client review forum is, "How do you identify clients w/o outing them?" With the ladies we have information they have volunteered in their ads, etc.

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Really sorry about your experience. 

I think there should be a provider only website area where the girls could share bad experiences with clients and create a black list. That way they could check out a client before making an appointment. 

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9 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

Agreed!

The ideal is a 'public' review forum for both providers and clients.  This should provide for moderation & rebuttal. (BTW, I like TOB's "one response" policy. It prevents the nasty back & forth I've seen on other boards.)

The problem with a 'public' client review forum is, "How do you identify clients w/o outing them?" With the ladies we have information they have volunteered in their ads, etc.

Good points.  The ladies could use the user name, but that could easily change.  Giving out a hobby phone number or email poses the same problems.  Being a dick client is so much easier than being a bat shit crazy lady.  Pictures don't lie!  :-)

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59 minutes ago, gimmyg said:

 

4 minutes ago, Riggo said:


...  Being a dick client is so much easier than being a bat shit crazy lady.  Pictures don't lie!  :-)

Not really. There is so much of the market that is NOT Internet savey.  This applies to both providers & clients. They know to look on BP because of all the LE publicity, but very few know about TOB or other boards. 

 

BTW: the new multi-quote feature is a real PITA, especially when one needs to get rid of a quote on an iPhone. 

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3 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

 

BTW: the new multi-quote feature is a real PITA, especially when one needs to get rid of a quote on an iPhone. 

I agree.  PITA is an understatement!

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On December 22, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Nikki Holiday said:

 

I LOVE THIS WOMAN! Thank you Nikki! Took the words right out of my mouth!

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On December 22, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Bit Banger said:

It's possible (I'm not saying that this is what happened!) that he showed up with his crappy attitude, had a quick session, and expected something back for the shorter time. He's wrong, of course. If you pay for 60, but are out in 30, you (the guy) have something do with that. I've had it happen to me, but not her fault - don't try to change the envelope. 

He got his full 30min he booked for :) he was a younger guy and probably couldnt afford to see me and thought id be scared and give him his money back lol who knows

(( he has seen this thread but hasn't responded but has texted me saying he's sorry and hopes i give him a good reference but I honestly can't, I'll tell the provider the truth and if she sees him I atleast told her ))

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8 minutes ago, AkilahRose said:

I LOVE THIS WOMAN! Thank you Nikki! Took the words right out of my mouth!

+1and Dito!! 

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7 hours ago, AkilahRose said:

 

...  I'll tell the provider the truth and if she sees him I at least told her ))

As you should. Honesty in reviews!

You don't have to resort to name calling or insults. NCNS, poor service, rude behavior, unsafe conditions - all of these can be accurately reported in a civil manner.  We establish our reputations through our words & actions - good & bad, male & female. 

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On 12/20/2015 at 4:17 PM, Nikki Holiday said:

Your NOT ugly. :P 

Ladies Don't become a victim. Ways women can protect themselves. 

1. Take self defense training classes and make sure you fish the fight. You keep going to classes until your solid.

  • 1st Year: Go to classes once a month.
  • 2nd Year: Go to classes every 3 months.
  • 3rd Year: Go to classes every 6 Months and keep going every 6 months. 

2. Always cary a Knife, Mace/Pepper Spray, Tazor. Get high powered tazor and don't buy the little cheep shit. Make sure you know hoe to use it properly. 

3. Buy a gun 

  • Fill out the application at the gun store. It only takes a few minutes.
  • Buy a gun that is right for you. Ask about the different sizes and how they handle. 
  • Take a gun class. Learn how to use it.
  • Once every 3 months go to a practice range. 
  • Get a conceal and carry license.
  • Traveling from state to another? Make sure you check to see what the restrictions from one state to another. 

4. Pay attention and keep your awareness up. Use your Sixth Sense aka Gut instinct, and trust your gut feelings. 

5. Learn how to identify risky situations before he arrives.

6. Always make the guy take a shower before the session. During the you can put the money wherever you hide your stuff.

The next time some asshole pushes on you, you'll have options. Take his fucking ass down until he taps out. Give him something to bitch about. Then drag him out the door. If necessary call security and change hotels. 

hey...  how about a session WHILE at the range? a new venue for service... LOL...  get your shots off while you get some shots off...   aka handle your weapon while she "pockets" your gun... 

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On 12/20/2015 at 4:17 PM, Nikki Holiday said:

Make sure you know hoe to use it properly. 

Take his fucking ass down until he taps out. Give him something to bitch about. Then drag him out the door. 

Sometimes when Nikki gets it wrong, she still gets it wright :cool:

But am I the only one that's worried when we are all armed to teeth and ready for a fight, that there will just be more fighting going on?

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3 minutes ago, Raoul said:

... But am I the only one that's worried when we are all armed to teeth and ready for a fight, that there will just be more fighting going on?

A digression, but -

It's called Mutual Assured Destruction.  It worked for USSR & USA for decades.

In FL when they made the CCW laws less restrictive, crime against residents dropped.  Criminals started looking for rental cars, because they were most likely tourists and less likely to be carrying.

 

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2 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

It worked for USSR & USA for decades.

Ah yes, the cold war. Those were the good ole days...:cool:

I guess if I'm worried about getting taken out by friendly fire, I can just stay home. The price of freedom, I suppose.

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On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Kashmir said:

 

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