Cut The Chit-Chat

[Kandi Apple]

The more I think about this thread, the more off base it sounds.  I have had many a provider contact me out of the blue often trying to entice me to be a new client.  Sometime it would be in response to a post or when joining a new board.  Sometimes I scheduled with them, sometimes not.

I got an idea of what the person was like by communicating with them.  It goes both ways.

Gez, what a shallow thought if I contacted a provider only when I wanted to schedule an appointment.

OMG this whole response is a line of bullshit!

You had many providers contact you....You mean A provider contacted you.

"she needed some $$$"

We are providers, we should only be contacted for services...Or a Reference here and there.

There is an exception to the regulars that have established a relationship and is a friend. I love to know how they are doing, and Love to have conversations with them.

Those conversations are NOT a waste of time. They are REAL!

 

[gr8horse]

To all who think idle chit-chat isn't time wasting, can I have your work number? You know just to say hi and ask a few questions? And maybe we can get together sometime in the future. Maybe.

To take this analogy one step further. I sell widgets and my customers have a choice of buying one of these from any number of widget makers. I engage in some chit chat with these potential buyers on a daily basis. Sometimes I get the sale sometimes I do not, but the one constant is that the better job I do of presenting myself as the best option the better chance I have of getting and retaining that customer.  It would be far more efficient time wise if my incoming message indicated that if you don't a known order date and qty "please call back when u have it all together. Efficient but not very effective. 

[Guest]

I will join in right quick, if I may.  I've had a pretty unbelievable amount of time wasted as of late, to the point that I have not had one single piece of contact result in an appointment in like...5 days. It's like...people spending an hour plus on the fence trying to decide if they have time to actually do anything,  and not understanding that their lack of action is basically a theft of MY time and could have been spent getting ready or maybe just not getting sucked into their inner debate for no reason.  I don't think it's all intentional rudeness so much as it is that many guys just can't make a decision as small as what they want for breakfast.  It's not talking I find frustrating, but the fact that men are conventionally more assertive by far...but not lately.  Wishy washy types are never high on my list of people to talk to, because I personally take offense that they have pulled me in the middle of their issue needlessly. 

[mrvegas63]

Flip side of B_randy's time wasting point, and ties into gr8horse's point: providers can be their worst enemy, re: time wasting trying to close the deal. How many times has a guy run into this:

Me: Hello! This is Mr Vegas real name. Do you have availability today? I'm free all day and would like to set something up.

ASP: Sure! I'm pretty open too. What time you thinking?

Me: How about xx:xx? ASP: Can't. [repeat ad nauseum]

Both sides need to cut to the chase, imo.

[Guest]

Flip side of B_randy's time wasting point, and ties into gr8horse's point: providers can be their worst enemy, re: time wasting trying to close the deal. How many times has a guy run into this:

Me: Hello! This is Mr Vegas real name. Do you have availability today? I'm free all day and would like to set something up.

ASP: Sure! I'm pretty open too. What time you thinking?

Me: How about xx:xx? ASP: Can't. [repeat ad nauseum]

Both sides need to cut to the chase, imo.

What this guy said, with emphasis on NEED.  Of course, within reason LOL!  It's also no fun to get this: 

C: bbbj, cim, tuma, msog, and grk bdsm? In 10 min? 

P: okay, but can I get a name and age and an actual greeting BEFORE you ask me if I'll just lick your ass?

C:SHEESH, sure. I'm your new best friend.  You can be ready in 10 mins? I'm kinda pressed for time.  Also, can you give me the special you ran in that one review a year ago? I have a big Dick and I never pay usually.  5 mins from now?

P: ....................

C: what's your address? I'm already there. I have an outfit request. 3 mins?

 

[gr8horse]

I think we all agree that time wasters are just that..... Time wasters!  They likely know who they are and I would expect that with a bit of experience providers can fairy quickly weed them out as well. The crux of this appears to me.... Or at least my question has to do with... is some polite and reasonable exchange(tire kicking as it were)  acceptable?  Some of us know we are buying just looking for the right model and the best time to pull the trigger. For me this hobby has always been a very timing driven venture. I might also ad that for me a bit of tete-a-tete is somewhat important for discovering the best model. I hearken back to the old days when there were no photos no reviews and our only link was a bit of a phone conversation. Our phone manner both client and provider was quite critical to getting anything set up. 

[Wannabebad]

OMG this whole response is a line of bullshit!

You had many providers contact you....You mean A provider contacted you.

"she needed some $$$"

We are providers, we should only be contacted for services...Or a Reference here and there.

There is an exception to the regulars that have established a relationship and is a friend. I love to know how they are doing, and Love to have conversations with them.

Those conversations are NOT a waste of time. They are REAL!

 

wow Kandi you just seem to be so on top of it.  First you basically scold us all, yes you scolded us don't deny it as you have tried to do, and NOW you are calling bullshit in what someone has said. It's almost like you where a fly on the wall and knew every detail of inkspots life. I mean, to speak with such authority on all these matters just...well...it's amazing. I don't speak for ANY of the other guys here as you speak for the woman but your hotness only got you so many points and with that fairly mean response they are gone. Speaking for me and me alone you can bet I get a very bad vibe from you, not customer or service oriented in anyway and that is something I look for in a provider. Every relationship starts with a conversation in some way shape or form and I'm sorry you only enjoy the short ones. As for this response if you don't agree with it I'm sorry for having wasted your time with it. 

P.S. I'm done with this convo but think we can all agree, time wasters suck, it happens, get over it. 

Edited November 3, 2015 by Wannabebad

[gr8horse]

 

What this guy said, with emphasis on NEED.  Of course, within reason LOL!  It's also no fun to get this: 

C: bbbj, cim, tuma, msog, and grk bdsm? In 10 min? 

P: okay, but can I get a name and age and an actual greeting BEFORE you ask me if I'll just lick your ass?

C:SHEESH, sure. I'm your new best friend.  You can be ready in 10 mins? I'm kinda pressed for time.  Also, can you give me the special you ran in that one review a year ago? I have a big Dick and I never pay usually.  5 mins from now?

P: ....................

C: what's your address? I'm already there. I have an outfit request. 3 mins?

 

Now that is funny shit right there. See you have established that you have a sense of humor. That is a big deal for success in any walk of life

[UTF4ME]

I attempt to keep my conversations short with providers because I am aware that they get inundated with texts, calls, voice mails, and emails.

Being self employed and essentially having a phone attached to my noggin all day, I understand the need for brevity. 

 

Edit for grammar. 

Edited November 3, 2015 by UTF4ME

[Guest]

I hope I speak for all the ladies when I say: Cut the Chit- Chat!

All the messages back and forth just to get to the point.

Most of us are all here for the same reason.

We all screen the same "for the most part" .

When you contact a provider it is proper Hobbiest  etiquette to introduce yourself, include your contact information the date and time looking for, and your recent reputable references.

The P411 members tend to want more information from us ladies due to the menu change. That is OK as long as you don't waste a ladies time by personally messaging her as if P411 is a dating site.

Meh, makes them think you like them. Just clock in for the day and put in the work, including pre flirting, sending a few special pics, build your visit up! I'll even entertain post visit texts. Some men feel a connection and they need some validation or a clue as to how you feel about them. Also counts as being on the clock. The way I see it, clean house, scheduling, creating ambiance, looking hot, and chit chat are part of the job. 

[Erin_CO]

The way I see it, clean house, scheduling, creating ambiance, looking hot, and chit chat are part of the job. 

Same here! Chit-chat is part of it.

At least if you are low volume it's possible to do it, if not, I understand it can be annoying.

[pfunk]

The more I think about this thread, the more off base it sounds.  I have had many a provider contact me out of the blue often trying to entice me to be a new client.  Sometime it would be in response to a post or when joining a new board.  Sometimes I scheduled with them, sometimes not.

I got an idea of what the person was like by communicating with them.  It goes both ways.

Gez, what a shallow thought if I contacted a provider only when I wanted to schedule an appointment.

This post sounds off base to me. Do you get to know your physical therapist, tailor, doctor, electrician, mechanic, housecleaner, etc before you schedule an appointment? 

I don't know about you, but I have friends that I chat, and visit with. Providers are a specialized trade, that I use periodically, I don't need anything other than reviews and advertising to schedule an appointment. 

[Jez UaBriain]

Kandi, Lucy, Erin, spot on here. Unfortunately we do have those with less then honorable intentions, the bonifide caddish guys who are mainly wanting free pics for their porn collection, or to simply string you along as they spank their little guy. etc.  Simply because they either cannot  think of paying for sex, or they can't afford it. Whatever their  reasoning behind it - its wrong for them to assume you are not doing anything but texting, emailing, etc. with them. We exist simply for their needs, and that we cannot possibly have a real life, real jobs, family and friends that like us.

Then there is the naïve, nervous guy who is excited to be talking to a provider and does not realize he is taking up a large portion of time with all the back and forth one or two sentence texts. Then it is up to us on how much time we can spend with this. Fortunately, the cads we soon learn to spot early on.  One or two fools and a lady can get zero tolerance for this shit real quick - you have to stop them when they start.... or be the fool to play their game. And the guy who is nervous and new to this- we also learn to read this, and these guys we don't mind taking a little more time with them. That is of course depending where we are in the course of the day. If I am driving or just living life and can't take a 30 -45 minute  conversation I tell them that I will have to call the back  later on this day when I can. 

Reality is we can/t make every one happy all of the time.   And it seems like a purposeful time waster is also the same cad who tries to get a discount........ or expects us to take his check  . His BAD check.

[boink36]

There are providers who think most guys in this hobby are beneath them and others who see clients as people too. it's amazing how a 

thread like this can paint the two black and white. 

[gr8owl]

I only contact a provider I haven't seen before (outside of general chat on a board like this anyway) for one reason - I pretty sure based upon research I want to see her.  A short conversation - anywhere from thirty seconds to five minutes tops - is enough to convince me "oh hell yes when can I see you?" or "yeah, have a good day, thanks for your time."  But I pretty much do need that much time to decide.  Sorry, just me but I want a feel for whether we are a 'fit" before I commit my valuable time and hers because I want us both to enjoy it. To any provider that thinks that short a conversation is time wasting ...... that answers my question and shortens my list!

 

Oh, and if I have seen her before all I need is "hey, remember me? This is xxxxx and i want to see you tomorrow at yy:00.  Is that a good time?

[Lucy Kitten]

LOL cutting out the BS doesn't mean that a provider thinks anyone is beneath her. If anything the true nature of the client rears it's ugly head in threads like this. A few providers exclaim their dislike of a particular behavior and are instantly labeled because a few dudes disagree. A simple request to respect someone's time shouldn't be a huge argument.

 

[Guest]

LOL cutting out the BS doesn't mean that a provider thinks anyone is beneath her. If anything the true nature of the client rears it's ugly head in threads like this. A few providers exclaim their dislike of a particular behavior and are instantly labeled because a few dudes disagree. A simple request to respect someone's time shouldn't be a huge argument.

 

Trying to turn this thread around, and say that the clients are ass holes, is the stupidest shit I ever heard of. 

[Guest]

 

What this guy said, with emphasis on NEED.  Of course, within reason LOL!  It's also no fun to get this: 

C: bbbj, cim, tuma, msog, and grk bdsm? In 10 min? 

P: okay, but can I get a name and age and an actual greeting BEFORE you ask me if I'll just lick your ass?

C:SHEESH, sure. I'm your new best friend.  You can be ready in 10 mins? I'm kinda pressed for time.  Also, can you give me the special you ran in that one review a year ago? I have a big Dick and I never pay usually.  5 mins from now?

P: ....................

C: what's your address? I'm already there. I have an outfit request. 3 mins?

 

Thanks for the gut laugh B_Randy!!!

[Lucy Kitten]

I only contact a provider I haven't seen before (outside of general chat on a board like this anyway) for one reason - I pretty sure based upon research I want to see her.  A short conversation - anywhere from thirty seconds to five minutes tops - is enough to convince me "oh hell yes when can I see you?" or "yeah, have a good day, thanks for your time."  But I pretty much do need that much time to decide.  Sorry, just me but I want a feel for whether we are a 'fit" before I commit my valuable time and hers because I want us both to enjoy it. To any provider that thinks that short a conversation is time wasting ...... that answers my question and shortens my list!

 

Oh, and if I have seen her before all I need is "hey, remember me? This is xxxxx and i want to see you tomorrow at yy:00.  Is that a good time?

It's you in the long run that will miss out. If you are calling to just get to know me without the intention of booking at the time of the phone call then it's you that can't see the forest for the trees. Why should I commit any of my valuable time to convince you? Do you actually follow up with those that you don't decide to see? My guess is probably not.

There is an unreasonable amount of expectation associated with this. Ladies first have to have enticing advertising and then they have to have reviews to back it up and then we are wanted to prove ourselves worthy on the phone. No one really has the time to spend as much as five minutes at a time talking to clients who may or may not book. What makes you such a special snowflake that you should be the exception? Do you consider the time and money we put into our marketing?

I have said it a few times and I think there is confusion, I am not opposed to chit-chat with someone who is calling to book but I have all the issues in the world with the guy who is just checking to see if we're a good fit.

[Lucy Kitten]

Trying to turn this thread around, and say that the clients are ass holes, is the stupidest shit I ever heard of. 

Coming from the person who does nothing but blame providers for everything. Why don't you try staying on topic.

[Guest]

 

It's you in the long run that will miss out.

Wrong, pussy is replaceable by the next hooker in line! 

I have said it a few times and I think there is confusion, I am not opposed to chit-chat with someone who is calling to book but I have all the issues in the world with the guy who is just checking to see if we're a good fit.

When your talking to someone one on the phone, you can get really good vibe. With in reason why cant a guys see if we are good fit? Isn't that what they are paying for in the first place? That is bullshit. We are always telling the guys to do there research. When they do, and they call up directly and decide they don't like your attitude. Its a problem... WOW. The guys are damed if they do, and dammed if they don't. Im grateful I don't have this problem. 

[Guest]

When your talking to someone one on the phone, you can get really good vibe. With in reason why cant a guys see if we are good fit? Isn't that what they are paying for in the first place? That is bullshit. We are always telling the guys to do there research. When they do, and they call up directly and decide they don't like your attitude. Its a problem... WOW. The guys are damed if they do, and dammed if they don't. Im grateful I don't have this problem. 

Thanks Nikki!  I can understand the stuff like B_randy was complaining about, but you hit the nail on the head.  I would much prefer to spend a couple of minutes figuring out that whether or not there is even the tiniest connection.  If I couldn't call or text Megan Rae, there would have been little chance that I could have learned she had an incredible sense of humor which is very important to me.

[Guest]

To all who think idle chit-chat isn't time wasting, can I have your work number? You know just to say hi and ask a few questions? And maybe we can get together sometime in the future. Maybe.

For the sole purpose of outing if he don't book you? Dammmm, very bold sweetheart. 

Coming from the person who does nothing but blame providers for everything. Why don't you try staying on topic. 

You must have a really good imagination these days Lucy. So, stop your lie's. I do not blame ALL providers. (I do blame the ones who are scandalous) Lucy, If your going to accuse me of something, at lease accuse me of something, I am actually guilty of. DUHHHHHH LMAO!!!! You don't get the option of bossing me around! One thing I notice about you, "you TRY to control" Good luck with that, you'll never get that option with me.   

[Guest]

Thanks Nikki!  I can understand the stuff like B_randy was complaining about, but you hit the nail on the head.  I would much prefer to spend a couple of minutes figuring out that whether or not there is even the tiniest connection.  If I couldn't call or text Megan Rae, there would have been little chance that I could have learned she had an incredible sense of humor which is very important to me.

^^This^^ is a perfect example why chit chat is important. 

Just my OP.....For crying out loud. We have so many providers who operate differently. What one provider allows, another bitches about it. It no wonder the guys get confused.

Something I have learned and yes the hard way. Chit chat is important. My thought is this, if the guy is feeling me out while doing his research. And he doesn't think we are a match, and he decided not book me. Then he didn't waste my time. And I don't want to suck his dick. Thats his choice. He is the one paying for it. I don't need to see him for a bad time or even an ok time. No thanks.

Bottom line. So, if a guy says nah... she's not for me. HE IS DOING ME FAVOR by moving on and giving another provider the money and good time who is a good fit for both people.  

It is very easy to weed out the sum bags 

Edited November 4, 2015 by Nikki Holiday

[Guest]

 

What this guy said, with emphasis on NEED.  Of course, within reason LOL!  It's also no fun to get this: 

C: bbbj, cim, tuma, msog, and grk bdsm? In 10 min? 

P: okay, but can I get a name and age and an actual greeting BEFORE you ask me if I'll just lick your ass?

C:SHEESH, sure. I'm your new best friend.  You can be ready in 10 mins? I'm kinda pressed for time.  Also, can you give me the special you ran in that one review a year ago? I have a big Dick and I never pay usually.  5 mins from now?

P: ....................

C: what's your address? I'm already there. I have an outfit request. 3 mins?

 

B_Randy this was pretty funny to ready lol. Yes this happens guys. But its really easy to weed out these jokers. Its called BLOCK! lol So easy its fucking complicated. 

Edited November 4, 2015 by Nikki Holiday

[Guest]

This post sounds off base to me. Do you get to know your physical therapist, tailor, doctor, electrician, mechanic, housecleaner, etc before you schedule an appointment? 

 

🙄 First off, these are all people who you should have very clear communication with before scheduling an appointment. PT: techniques, palates? Tailor: In house, how long tailoring? Housekeeper: References, background check? Etc. OH and you're not even going on date with these people! 

Another reason I don't mind chit chat; men are giving me complete trust to their bodies. That is a serious deal. Don't you want to know the type of woman you're choosing to share yourself with? 🤔

[Danielle Rae]

Come on folks!  It's not rocket science.  We all know what "time wasting" entails.  The endless one-liner text messages; "hey baby"  "whats up"  "you're so hot"  "what does an hour get me?"    The caller who says "So wanna come hang out tonight?"     This thread got stretched beyond the intended message IMO - be respectful of everyone's time on both sides.  And if you seriously aren't planning on booking an appointment anytime soon - consider perhaps sending an email seeking clarification of what your inquiring about.  Just a thought...

[Keyser]

To all who think idle chit-chat isn't time wasting, can I have your work number? You know just to say hi and ask a few questions? And maybe we can get together sometime in the future. Maybe.

Are you a customer of mine?  Nope.

See the difference? 

[pfunk]

Are you a customer of mine?  Nope.

See the difference? 

Funny. That is exactly the point she was making. Time wasting fools, who are not customers, call to chat. There is no difference. Get it?

[pfunk]

🙄 First off, these are all people who you should have very clear communication with before scheduling an appointment. PT: techniques, palates? Tailor: In house, how long tailoring? Housekeeper: References, background check? Etc. OH and you're not even going on date with these people! 

Another reason I don't mind chit chat; men are giving me complete trust to their bodies. That is a serious deal. Don't you want to know the type of woman you're choosing to share yourself with? 🤔

If you don't mind spending time time with people, who aren't gonna make an appointment, feel free to chat.

This "hobby" is not a big deal. A massage is not a date. I'm not dating escorts. This is some fun during free time, for the guys. Nothing more. However, we do need to respect each other's time, regardless of the profession.