why do guys cancel after scheduling ?

[Alli]

I wonder why gentlemen cancel after looking at reviews and information which is posted… Then they schedule…. then they do not reply or confirm… Very irritating...

[Sascha Sanders]

I always assume there is something going on in their lives that is beyond their control and they will get back with me when they are able.  I try not to get irritated with cancels.  Shit happens and ,hey, I might not be their top priority at the time.  That's okay.  Be cool, is what I try to live by.

If a man just doesn't reply to a confirm, I do not hold the time.  

 

[Alli]

Touche

 

[Juanmotai]

I hear and see a lot of providers complain about this lately. I dont really get it either. I know things come up sometimes that a person can't control, it has happened to me, but it's not that hard to send a text, email or even a phone call to let the provider know. I've had a couple of providers stand me up and it totally sucks. 

[Alli]

you are right i agree juan…. a little common courtesy 

[Keyser]

It goes both ways....I recently scheduled an evening appt with a visiting provider a couple weeks in advance. 

The day of the appt she canceled with about 3 hours notice.  Obviously that sucked, but we rescheduled for the next evening.

That day, my schedule got away from me and about 3 hours prior I asked if we could push back an hour.  About 90 minutes later she replied that she could not do any later, that it was then or nothing.  There was no way I could make it, so we had to cancel.  She chastised me a bit for not giving much notice, I didn't point out that it would have been more notice if it hadn't taken her so long to reply. 

The next morning I apologized again and asked if she was available that evening.  She said she was and we agreed on a time.  That afternoon she canceled with a couple hours notice.

So, on the one hand, shit happens.  On the other hand, in a 72 hour period I canceled once and she canceled twice, yet I was the only one who got chastised for it.  Some ladies try to enforce "cancelation fees", but none that I know of offer any type of compensation when they cancel.

No real point except to vent a bit....cancelations suck for both sides.  The ladies see it as lost revenue, but sometimes the guys have gone to significant lengths to make the time available as well.

[Guest]

I hear and see a lot of providers complain about this lately.

So many girls have been complaining that guys are passing there screening, they get her location, and then they don't show up.

 I think the providers who are having this problem should get-together with the other girls who are too. Start looking for patterns.

A. See if its the same gentlemen playing games. 

B. Maybe it's another escort, and she sees you as her "competition" falsely booking you just to keep you busy.

C. Since several different providers have turned up missing lately all at once, and never announced retirement maybe its LE getting locations. 

It could be a number of things. But its very easy to figure it out. 

[Juanmotai]

So many girls have been complaining that guys are passing there screening, they get her location, and then they don't show up.

 I think the providers who are having this problem should get-together with the other girls who are too. Start looking for patterns.

A. See if its the same gentlemen playing games. 

B. Maybe it's another escort, and she sees you as her "competition" falsely booking you just to keep you busy.

C. Since several different providers have turned up missing lately all at once, and never announced retirement maybe its LE getting locations. 

It could be a number of things. But its very easy to figure it out. 

I agree with nikki here. If there is a pattern of a few select gentlemen, then they need to be called out, the same for providers. The advantage us guys have is that we can always leave it in a review, providers don't have that option, at least not that I know of. 

[Bora Bora]

Definitely that's something weird and those people don't deserve your time or even your bad feelings.

Anything can happen that makes you cancel an scheduled appointment, we all know that, we can't control everything in our lives. But you can always call, or sent a text or an email apologizing, trying to reschedule or even offering to bring her a compensation for the time/money she lost because of your no-show. That depends on each one's ways of doing things. You can even send a quick text just saying that something terrible happened and that you'll call her later, and then call her later. But not showing and not calling... not good...

In summary: those are bad people.

 

 

 

[MrReindeer-9515]

So many girls have been complaining that guys are passing there screening, they get her location, and then they don't show up.

 I think the providers who are having this problem should get-together with the other girls who are too. Start looking for patterns.

A. See if its the same gentlemen playing games. 

B. Maybe it's another escort, and she sees you as her "competition" falsely booking you just to keep you busy.

C. Since several different providers have turned up missing lately all at once, and never announced retirement maybe its LE getting locations. 

It could be a number of things. But its very easy to figure it out. 

[Tinfoil Hat/Donny Dork Font /on]

I agree completely, but I think your explanations don't get to the heart of it. Personally, I think the missing ASP's were kidnapped by aliens for a massive Illuminati breeding experiment. This business with NCNS is just a diversion.

[Tinfoil Hat/Donny Dork Font /off]

Seriously?

I believe the first NSNC occurred shortly after Alexander Graham Bell invented the fucking telephone.

[Guest]

I believe the first NSNC occurred shortly after Alexander Graham Bell invented the fucking telephone.

lol 

[Sascha Sanders]

are we talking about nc/ns? Because that's different to me than booking and then not confirming or booking and then canceling.  No call no show is confirm and have me dripping wet waiting.  That might make me mad, if I hear nothing within 12 hours.  

But just a cancel or a fail-to-confirm?  Nah.

 

[Mustang87]

are we talking about nc/ns? Because that's different to me than booking and then not confirming or booking and then canceling.  No call no show is confirm and have me dripping wet waiting.  That might make me mad, if I hear nothing within 12 hours.  

But just a cancel or a fail-to-confirm?  Nah.

 

Yeah, I agree, big difference.  I've scheduled appointments with ladies and have had to cancel.  I've also canceled on my dentist and barber.  Life happens.  Canceling is OK.  MCNS is a whole different thing and not OK.

[Womanlover-3464]

I once posted a complaint about a nc/ns, got a lot of 'stupid you' replies. Their advice? Book two appointments 30 minutes apart. If you saw the first gal, ignore the second, and if the first was a ns, you had a Plan B! I never did that because nc/ns was what I was complaining about, and if I didn't like it, why would someone else? So for some it's all part of the game. Sad but real.

[Guest]

I'm sure there are all kinds of reasons. But I'd think high on the list is just guys who wanted to try this, but chickened out at the last minute. I can't begin to describe how nervous I was the first few times, and I'm not without some experience with uncomfortable situations. I'm sure some guys get to the door and just can't quite raise their hand to knock. 

I really have been meaning to see the first local provider I saw again. I'm sure she had a good laugh at how petrified I was. It would be fun to talk to her about it. She was a very good sport, as I suspect most of these women are. Clearly I wasn't the first middle aged man who stood trembling on her door step. lol 

I have no doubt that some NCNS are more nefarious. But don't discount the most obvious answer. Occam's razor and all that. 

[Alli]

I'm also not saying that i haven't had to cancel before but i always contact the person in advance… unless there is an emergency.  So, all in all its about 50/50

[crazyb]

I have only had to cancel three appointments with young ladies,  Once because I was involved an collision when an old blue hair did not see my Harley.  

I did how ever call to cancel my time . 

[freewheelin]

It goes both ways....

Agreed. An equally valid question could be "Why do gals not respond to proper date requests?" It can't be that hard to take a minute and write "Sorry I don't think we'd be a good match" or "You don't have enough oks, do you have any other references?" or "I'm busy that night, any other days work?" or "I'm not taking new clients at this time" or whatever. But you'd be surprised how often there's just radio silence, or there is a response but then communication breaks off.

How ironic would it be if someone in this thread "no response'd" me on P411 once? It's fine, we get over it and move on to the next one. Just pointing out that poor communication, time-wasting and no-showing run both ways in this biz.

[Guest]

An equally valid question could be "Why do gals not respond to proper date requests?"

One of my first posts here was a rant about emailing a provider and not getting a response. She was a well reviewed and respected provider and running an ad on Backpage that day with a special. Email only. I emailed. I got nothing back. And I got all worked up about it. Everyone told me to calm down, give her a bit, and try again. I did the next day, and got a very nice apology. We set up an appointment, she gave me the "special" price, and we had a wonderful time. 

I'm guessing they just get a ton of email/phone calls/texts. It's almost inevitable that some will get missed in the noise. 

[ValeriaTaiz]

I don't know how professionals the providers the gentlemen here are complaining about, but from all my traveling I have never experienced so many cancels as I did in Colorado. 

I was there for a week visiting, paid advertisement, hotel reservations, and all the expenses. I had prebooked appoinments for the last two weeks prior to my arrival. And I got 6 cancelations. 

I don't really know how serious the business men who hobby are, but I do know that I never have had so many cancelations in one week.... ever!!!

My mistake was not checking/asking providers references and only taking work reference from this 6 individuals. I am very strict with my screening and I did spoke with the gentlemen before my arrival, so I don't want to think that we're providers posing as clients (if they have the time to do such a devious things then their business are really suffering).

For this reason and in honor to the ones who canceled last minute, now I have a no cancelation policy.  If you cancel once you won't be able to reschedule ever with me. Unfortunately, there are a lot of times that prevent us from following through with our commitments, but while then my time and money was already invested.  Also I am not taking work references as screening, that can be added, but it won't replace the "two references from reputable providers"  

Last I want to add. There is a man who is also providing work references and playing games in the Denver area I'll provide the information to providers who are interested.  He is a time waster and he is obviously targeting providers who screen with work information.  

I am sure he has done this before, but this was the very first time someone is telling me that he is outside my door when he is not.  It is PURE EVIL! 

I also understand the ladies who put up with cancelations over and over and over from the same clients, but if we all raise our standards, maybe these type of situations would be under control.

Thanks for letting me share. And contact me if you want the info of that client 

[Alli]

I also have been getting weird calls from I think the same guy. Asking girls to come over naked and then when you're on your way or almost there even though I don't do that personally. He calls and cancels or you get all the way to his place and he makes up some lame excuse. So if some guy calls you asking you to show up to his place naked it doesn't matter how much money, I wouldn't do it. 

[Keyser]

For this reason and in honor to the ones who canceled last minute, now I have a no cancelation policy.  If you cancel once you won't be able to reschedule ever with me. Unfortunately, there are a lot of times that prevent us from following through with our commitments, but while then my time and money was already invested. 

You mean a NCNS, or cancelation with notice?  If the latter, good luck.  I mean, really, where is the benefit for you? 

Do you really think that a client is going to think "Oh, gee, I better not schedule with her because I might cancel and then I'm blacklisted"?  I doubt it, most will book anyway and still potentially cancel, so you haven't gained anything there.  And if the client DOES think that way, and doesn't schedule, you've potentially lost business if you don't get another booking.

Then, let's say he books, and has to cancel because shit happens.  Now you blacklist him.  What have you gained?  You've gained nothing and turned away what was possibly a good customer.

I get that you want to weed out time wasters, but just because someone cancels doesn't automatically put them in that camp.  But, hey, it's your call.

Edited October 9, 2015 by Keyser

[ValeriaTaiz]

You mean a NCNS, or cancelation with notice?  If the latter, good luck.  I mean, really, where is the benefit for you? 

Do you really think that a client is going to think "Oh, gee, I better not schedule with her because I might cancel and then I'm blacklisted"?  I doubt it, most will book anyway and still potentially cancel, so you haven't gained anything there.  And if the client DOES think that way, and doesn't schedule, you've potentially lost business if you don't get another booking.

Then, let's say he books, and has to cancel because shit happens.  Now you blacklist him.  What have you gained?  You've gained nothing and turned away what was possibly a good customer.

I get that you want to weed out time wasters, but just because someone cancels doesn't automatically put them in that camp.  But, hey, it's your call.

Let me tell you something Keyser,

A good customer to me has consideration of my time and the fact that my time is very precious and not only mine, but everyone's time.  I don't live around the corner and even if I did, I expect consideration and respect. 

I take my business serious and the people who see me are very important to me. I am a woman and my word is GOLD. I don't say I am going to pay for a flight, a rental car and nice hotel, and don't do it.  I don't end up getting to my destination a month later and call a stranger new client to give me a ride from the airport and take me to motel 6.  What I say is what it is, and I'm a woman! I expect the same respect and same formality from the people who I choose to see.

I never mentioned blacklisting anyone, did I?  I reserve the right to see who I choose to see, I avoid aggravation, whoever is interested to see me knows well that I am spending a lot of time and money and if they don't have the respect and consideration to take me and my business serious, they are not deserving of my company.

This business has enough aggravations and dangers for me to add more.  I enjoy what I do. I love what I do!!! That is because I conduct my business as such, and the people who see me are wonderful, all are really wonderful! And I don't lower my standards. If I loose a few good ones, then that is part of the business.  I loose a few good ones every time when they refuse to be screen anyway. 

Believe me, if there were more providers expecting respect and consideration there would be less aggravation in this industry, but I understand it is not easy to  keep high standards. 

Lastly, a first appoinment is like a job interview, it's what sets you apart from the rest. When you build the connection and the trust, when you make the fist impression. 

CANCELING FIRST APPOINMENT, NOT A VERY GOOD IMPRESSION... 

I want to WOW you since the very beginning and I expect the same.

 

[Keyser]

Let me tell you something Keyser,

A good customer to me has consideration of my time and the fact that my time is very precious and not only mine, but everyone's time.  I don't live around the corner and even if I did, I expect consideration and respect. 

I take my business serious and the people who see me are very important to me. I am a woman and my word is GOLD. I don't say I am going to pay for a flight, a rental car and nice hotel, and don't do it.  I don't end up getting to my destination a month later and call a stranger new client to give me a ride from the airport and take me to motel 6.  What I say is what it is, and I'm a woman! I expect the same respect and same formality from the people who I choose to see.

I never mentioned blacklisting anyone, did I?  I reserve the right to see who I choose to see, I avoid aggravation, whoever is interested to see me knows well that I am spending a lot of time and money and if they don't have the respect and consideration to take me and my business serious, they are not deserving of my company.

This business has enough aggravations and dangers for me to add more.  I enjoy what I do. I love what I do!!! That is because I conduct my business as such, and the people who see me are wonderful, all are really wonderful! And I don't lower my standards. If I loose a few good ones, then that is part of the business.  I loose a few good ones every time when they refuse to be screen anyway. 

Believe me, if there were more providers expecting respect and consideration there would be less aggravation in this industry, but I understand it is not easy to  keep high standards. 

Lastly, a first appoinment is like a job interview, it's what sets you apart from the rest. When you build the connection and the trust, when you make the fist impression. 

CANCELING FIRST APPOINMENT, NOT A VERY GOOD IMPRESSION... 

I want to WOW you since the very beginning and I expect the same.

 

I meant your personal blacklist.

Your word is GOLD, huh?  So, you've never had to cancel?  You've never had things beyond your control change your plans?

Speaking of good impressions, your lack of empathy and flexibility makes a horrible one.  I can't imagine having a good time with someone so uptight.

[boink36]

I wonder why gentlemen cancel after looking at reviews and information which is posted… Then they schedule…. then they do not reply or confirm… Very irritating...

Did you ever see that commercial where the guy's last Viagra goes out the window? 

[ValeriaTaiz]

I meant your personal blacklist.

Your word is GOLD, huh?  So, you've never had to cancel?  You've never had things beyond your control change your plans?

Speaking of good impressions, your lack of empathy and flexibility makes a horrible one.  I can't imagine having a good time with someone so uptight.

it seems I touched a nerve! Lol  Relax Mr! Maybe you were one of the canceled appointments? That's why you are taking offense to my statements? 

As a matter of fact I never have canceled. Once I set my schedule, it is set on stone! It's  my business what gives me the freedom to travel and experience different things in and out of the U.S.  It's what give me the opportunity to meet wonderful individuals who are like minded, and enjoy the pleasure of my work!  It's what pays my bills and luxurious adventures.

For 10 years I worked in the corporate world I never missed one day (thank God I am a very healthy and energetic individual).  How am I going to be canceling when my reputation, income and my business is on the line?  I'm running a business here if you have not noticed!

You obviusly have selective hearing/reading, so you missed a lot of my reasoning in why I am implementing this NEW policy.

You (as everyone else) are entitled to your opinion; I am not looking to impress YOU.  However, never judge a book by it cover! 

Upright is a good adjective 

Upright 

 

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   (of a person or their behavior) strictly honorable or honest.

   "an upright member of the community"

   synonyms:

   honest, honorable, upstanding, respectable, high-minded, law-abiding, right-minded, worthy, moral, ethical, righteous, decent, scrupulous, conscientious, good, virtuous, principled, of principle, noble, incorruptible "an upright member of the community"

 

 

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     (of a person or their behavior) strictly honorable or honest

 

[boink36]

 

Upright

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   (of a person or their behavior) strictly honorable or honest.

   "an upright member of the community"

 

 

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     (of a person or their behavior) strictly honorable or honest

 

Only when I'm on my back. 

[N6_in_the_village]

I wonder why gentlemen cancel after looking at reviews and information which is posted… Then they schedule…. then they do not reply or confirm… Very irritating...

I'm guessing that in some cases, when a "gentleman" schedules an appointment and then disappears, he just gets a thrill from scheduling appointments with escorts, and he has no intention of keeping the appointment and actually paying the escort.

By the way, in my understanding, a "cancellation" means that the client informs you that he is cancelling, ahead of the appointment time (or the escort informs the client if she needs to cancel).  What you are describing, "then they do not reply or confirm", is usually called a no-call no-show (NCNS).

 

[Chrissy]

I wonder why gentlemen cancel after looking at reviews and information which is posted… Then they schedule…. then they do not reply or confirm… Very irritating...

its even worse when they have you drive cross town in bad traffic to a UN answered door! Happened to me this week  Some guys are just plain rude... 

[Falstaff]

I've had to cancel, but I always make it a point to let her know.  Blinding snowstorms on the 50-mile drive to her place, meetings set by your boss at just the wrong time -- stuff happens.  The key is to communicate -- immediately, politely.  And please, ladies, if you're on P411, check your email every few hours -- don't take 2 days to respond.  I try to schedule 2-3 days in advance, and if I don't hear back from an email or voice mail in 12 hours or so, it's on to the next lady.  The lady I've seen most often in the last five years always replies to email within an hour or so (except for the time she was in the Emergency Room - I saw the scar later) -- in addition to the fact that we really click, that's one reason I always see her when I'm in her area.