Fort Collins prostitution sting catches 10

[JRWolfe]

People, nothing has changed from 2 months ago, 2 years ago, or 20 years ago.

All vice departments have a budget and a job to do, which includes doing regular low level prostitution stings. Typically BP outcalls to a hotel room (where they control the environment). Rarely they will do a more high level bust.... maybe one every couple of years or so, that takes out a large agency or hits the news in a more significant way.

Way back in the early 80's ,when the liqour laws were changed and the all nude clubs had to put g-strings on the dancers. I went down to Denver PD to interview vice for an article about it for the Oyster. At the time I was also a DJ at Shotgun Willies and management were rather unclear to us. I didn't make an appointment,went there unannounced.

Although they ended up being very cooperative in talking about the new laws,probably to inform the public. The first thing I noticed was that they had copies of the Oyster,the Rocky Mountain News, Westword,the phone book ( etc ) open to the escort ads and were calling them.

Basically..they were doing their job.

So..be safe, do your screening well.

[Slipn'slide]

So..be safe, do your screening well.

Words to live by!

[harpo]

Do not kid yourself. Weather anyone wants to admit it or not, Vice does private incall stings too, not just hotels. Established providers have been busted. Common since, it is only a matter of time.

So weather has something to do with it ... Just kidding Nikki , I misspelled words all the time .

[Guest]

After thinking about this for a couple of days, it's still a bunch of guys who responded to a Backpage ad and didn't do any homework. Lesson there is, don't respond to Backpage ads without doing any homework. We can talk about all kinds of other stuff, but, really, that's it. Has as much to do with me as guys getting arrested for picking up women on Colfax.

I still consider myself very new to all this. Early on, my only concern was LE. Right now, I'm much more concerned about getting ripped off, or outed. This story doesn't change that. I've met a few women I had fun with and trust. I'm still meeting some more, but getting a lot more selective. Pretty soon, I'll start keeping to the people I know and the small bit of risk I'm taking will become even less.

And since I can't seem to post without an anecdote: The last person I met posted a two line ad on Backpage, with no picture, no phone number, and almost no information. Yeah, it took more work to get comfortable, for both of us, but it was the best experience I've had. No website. No reviews. Ad was only up for a few days. And she is *super* cautious about who she sees. There's more chance I'll be mistakenly arrested for robbing a bank than for seeing her.

So weather has something to do with it ... Just kidding Nikki , I misspelled words all the time .

She might have a few errors in her posts, but I hear her web site is flawless.

[Guest]

I am not trying to directly or in directly say any thing I hope I did not offend or make you feel like I was saying anything other then I feel the same as you. There has always been an effort to step up the stings to stop the situation, nothing is full proof. I too have been working on getting my self set up for retirement its not that easy with our life style.

Yesenia you not offend me. ;)hugs Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[Guest]

After thinking about this for a couple of days, it's still a bunch of guys who responded to a Backpage ad and didn't do any homework. Lesson there is, don't respond to Backpage ads without doing any homework. We can talk about all kinds of other stuff, but, really, that's it. Has as much to do with me as guys getting arrested for picking up women on Colfax.

I still consider myself very new to all this. Early on, my only concern was LE. Right now, I'm much more concerned about getting ripped off, or outed. This story doesn't change that. I've met a few women I had fun with and trust. I'm still meeting some more, but getting a lot more selective. Pretty soon, I'll start keeping to the people I know and the small bit of risk I'm taking will become even less.

And since I can't seem to post without an anecdote: The last person I met posted a two line ad on Backpage, with no picture, no phone number, and almost no information. Yeah, it took more work to get comfortable, for both of us, but it was the best experience I've had. No website. No reviews. Ad was only up for a few days. And she is *super* cautious about who she sees. There's more chance I'll be mistakenly arrested for robbing a bank than for seeing her.

She might have a few errors in her posts, but I hear her web site is flawless.

So weather has something to do with it ... Just kidding Nikki , I misspelled words all the time .

One of my goals is with in 3months to a year, improve my writing skills. I am clearly aware I have grammar issues. The good news is. I am actually doing something about it. I signed up for basic english class and will go from there if need be.

[Guest]

One of my goals is with in 3months to a year, improve my writing skills. I am clearly aware I have grammar issues. The good news is. I am actually doing something about it. I signed up for basic english class and will go from there if need be.

I think that's awesome!

Well you know where to find any help when you need it. And, no, I won't be asking for a "trade" deal.

[pitbull]

I think that's awesome!

Well you know where to find any help when you need it. And, no, I won't be asking for a "trade" deal.

Fortunately, Nikki's French is excellent (so I've heard), but it's true her English needs a bit of work.

[LongFellowDeeds]

I have a few comments after reading this thread.

First to share this incident :

I had a situation a couple of years ago. I went to an extended stay hotel in DTC to see a gal. I'd seen her several times in the past as, I was walking down the hall to her room a young adult female came down the hall. I at first thought nothing of it until she started following me saying " you look like you are here to see a hooker" mind you this was not just one time she actually turned and followed me down the hall making all sorts crazy comments and a scene. I went out to my truck and called the lady I was there to see about this crazy young adult female. After a short conversation I went got a room at a different hotel and had her meet me there.

She said that it had happened several times and to other providers in the hotel as well. This young female from what I found out later and understood was related to another Denver area provider.She also shared with me that she and the other gals had witnessed conversations between this other Denver provider and uniformed officers at the front desk of this hotel on more then one occasion . She did not want any problems and the last time we spoke she was going to move from the hotel. I've not spoken to her since that night and did see a 411 thread asking for information on what had happened to her. She was a long time provider in the area and vanished with no trace. Since then I have not been to this DTC area hotel or any extended stay hotels in that chain.

I now only schedule out calls or see gals in higher end hotels. When it comes to a privet in call for me it is uncomfortable how long has the gal been there, does she have drama with anyone in the building or a neighbor, is there being notice taken of her male traffic by anyone, does she have drama with a crazed client.

To the best of my knowledge Gina has never made the claim that P411 is 100% safe for gals or guys. She is very honest in the fact it nor anything short of not partaking in the hobby is.

I also agree with her when it comes to Nikki Holiday's comments and what she wants us to believe are statistics. Unless you sit around all day and night counting the times each gal has posted a BP ad and how many still are posting several ads VS moving them you wouldn't know and are making a guess at best. I've also noted the lack of response to Gina's comments as well.

Guys do a bit of research if a gal asks you for information provide it or politely let her know you are not comfortable doing so.

I've been seeing gals for 15 plus years and only ever had an issue when it comes to the information I've shared ONCE.

OR

Continue to be part of the chicken little syndrome that seems to be over taking TOB....

[Guest]

I have a few comments after reading this thread.

or see gals in higher end hotels.

Guys do a bit of research if a gal asks you for information provide it or politely let her know you are not comfortable doing so.

I've been seeing gals for 15 plus years and only ever had an issue when it comes to the information I've shared ONCE.

OR

Continue to be part of the chicken little syndrome that seems to be over taking TOB....

ummm, LE does use 5 star resort/hotels for stings too. Just had one here about 2 weeks ago at the Breakers.

This resort also has no problem asking guest to leave (check out ) for hiring entertainment as well. LAST year they asked one of their high end guest to leave and never return.

Remember, this is just a very small minority of the populace that partake here and the posting absolutely doesn't reflect the actual climate, IMO.

Same goes on here in Florida.

Finally, remember Rodeo, the old timers should. Having reviews doesn't mean you're not LE. Again, a provider named Rodeo from years ago.

Bottom line, there is a risk here, it's up to each one of use to decide if risk , consequences are manageable. Until laws are changed, the new target are the customers and looks like the practice is working so will continue. Just my .02

[Guest]

Guys do a bit of research if a gal asks you for information provide it or politely let her know you are not comfortable doing so.

I've been seeing gals for 15 plus years and only ever had an issue when it comes to the information I've shared ONCE.

Yeah, well there you... wait, once? That's 100% more times than I can afford. I get the point you're trying to make, but that sent a chill down my already nervous spine.

Finally, remember Rodeo, the old timers should. Having reviews doesn't mean you're not LE. Again, a provider named Rodeo from years ago.

No, but I wish someone would collect all these stories on a blog or something. I would love to hear this one.

Bottom line, there is a risk here, it's up to each one of use to decide if risk , consequences are manageable.

Do everything you can to minimize it, but yeah, at the end of the day, what you said. But it's worth pointing out, there is risk in everything.

[The Oxymoron]

To the best of my knowledge Gina has never made the claim that P411 is 100% safe for gals or guys. She is very honest in the fact it nor anything short of not partaking in the hobby is.

It's all about mitigating your risk, being prepared for the worst, and managing paranoia.

[geecue2]

IMO what this all boils down to is there is always a risk, if you want to cut the risk down, as stated so many times on the board. See well reviewed ladies , EB, P411.

[Guest]

IMO what this all boils down to is there is always a risk, if you want to cut the risk down, as stated so many times on the board. See well reviewed ladies , EB, P411.

Exactly. You, I and everyone else can only determine what risks any of us are willing to take or not take. Nothing and I do mean nothing is absolutely 100% a sure thing.

I can only be responsible for my own actions and choices. I can only make my own decisions based upon my own knowledge not what someone else tells me.

Bottom line, take this entire tread as information. Use this information.

[nairobi09]

I saw an escort at a hotel in another city (TX) last week. As I walked to the elevator the person at the front desk asked me if he could help me. When I said no, he asked me what room I was going to. I had never heard that one before.

Counting how many men are going to that one?

[Figjam]

Living up north sucks!!! It certainly makes you be more cautious, Ive been fortunate in some of the risks I have taken in the past and I know I need to work on seeing the right providers myself. I know before I see the next provider ill be doing more research and really try to find a few I really like! I also go in and out in hobbying, my last reputable provider was 6 months or so, My problem is I like spontaneity, am a horrible planner and hardly ever have seen a provider twice, #iliketotastetherainbow

[MelindaMadison]

Living up north sucks!!! It certainly makes you be more cautious, Ive been fortunate in some of the risks I have taken in the past and I know I need to work on seeing the right providers myself. I know before I see the next provider ill be doing more research and really try to find a few I really like! I also go in and out in hobbying, my last reputable provider was 6 months or so, My problem is I like spontaneity, am a horrible planner and hardly ever have seen a provider twice, #iliketotastetherainbow

That is why the streets (and streetwalking) were so popular (and dangerous) in the past... You can't take that mentality into escorting situations without getting the same risk. Either you upgrade to a higher level of safety through modifying your expectations and actions...or you keep the "right here, right now, volume" mentality and keep the risks.

[N6_in_the_village]

"From the archives", here is a thread about the Rodeo sting, not too informative though.

http://www.theotherboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=56167&highlight=rodeo#post56167

[Guest]

"From the archives", here is a thread about the Rodeo sting, not too informative though.

http://www.theotherboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=56167&highlight=rodeo#post56167

Thank you for that. It had a bit of what I was hoping to learn.

Just trying to learn all I can.

Just curious. Is this the origin of "stay away from Lakewood"?

[LongFellowDeeds]

ummm, LE does use 5 star resort/hotels for stings too. Just had one here about 2 weeks ago at the Breakers.

This resort also has no problem asking guest to leave (check out ) for hiring entertainment as well. LAST year they asked one of their high end guest to leave and never return.

Remember, this is just a very small minority of the populace that partake here and the posting absolutely doesn't reflect the actual climate, IMO.

Same goes on here in Florida.

Finally, remember Rodeo, the old timers should. Having reviews doesn't mean you're not LE. Again, a provider named Rodeo from years ago.

Bottom line, there is a risk here, it's up to each one of use to decide if risk , consequences are manageable. Until laws are changed, the new target are the customers and looks like the practice is working so will continue. Just my .02

Let me clearify here I've never been harrassed as I was in that exstended stay a higher end hotel.

[LongFellowDeeds]

Yeah, well there you... wait, once? That's 100% more times than I can afford. I get the point you're trying to make, but that sent a chill down my already nervous spine.

No, but I wish someone would collect all these stories on a blog or something. I would love to hear this one.

Do everything you can to minimize it, but yeah, at the end of the day, what you said. But it's worth pointing out, there is risk in everything.

It was my fault for not paying attention to the crazy showing prior to even contacting her. I will not mention names due to the best of my knowlage she is no longer around.

[Guest]

Let me clearify here I've never been harrassed as I was in that exstended stay a higher end hotel.

Never said you where. My point is NOT to get a False Sense of Security because you're going to a " High End" Hotel/Resort. The Breakers is a 5 star resort here in Palm Beach County AND has been used 3x the last year for stings.

Those who get caught up in these stings are those with what I call the street walker mentality, they want it now, only window shop, don't do research nor screen AKA low hanging fruit from both provider and john's.

The guys who read this forum are more informed then t he average john, yet we here are still a minority.

Here in Florida, the State House just passed this http://m.clickorlando.com/news/paying-for-sex-in-florida-could-become-more-costly/32402368

Laws are changing and we have to adjust. What to do? We can whine or become more proactive. I'm of the mind set whining resolves nothing. The sky is not falling, it's not the end of the world.

Discussion like this is very helpful for everyone and should be encouraged, IMO.

[Sennagig]

I'm pretty sure the real problem is legislation, not enforcement.

[steve_q]

Since there has been some stings going on recently here, I thought it worth mentioning I came across an

an ad on backpage that I think may be LE . The reason I think it is LE is because the phone number in the ad is listed on the www.escortbusts.com website. I'm not sure how to handle it because I don't want to hurt a provider's business if she is legit & someone just put her number on that website to ruin her business but on the other hand I want to watch out for my fellow hobbyists. I will put the info here & you can make your own judgement.

Here is the link to the number on escortbusts:

http://www.escortbusts.com/469-610-7669/

Here is the link to the ad:

http://denver.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sun-funday-specialsandgtandgtnaughty-kinky-curvy-big-bootie-cutie-wants-to-play-with-u-469-610-7669/18345393

Does anyone know how reliable escortbusts is or is it just one of those websites where anyone can post a number?

[JRWolfe]

My point is NOT to get a False Sense of Security because you're going to a " High End" Hotel/Resort. [url=http://]

Doesn't matter what city your high end Hotel is in .A few years ago, in Las Vegas , I left the adult video convention floor with a hot and fancy dressed porn actress to my hotel room. Our plan was that I was going to switch from what I wore to the convention into a tux, go out to dinner then to the awards show.

Imagine our suprise when we opened the door to leave my room just to see a couple of Vegas cops and the hotel manager about to knock on my door. We explained what we were doing,they said they saw us enter my room on the surveillance cameras and expected I had hired an escort. I told them to watch the footage as it would prove my alibi about changing clothes. They let us go.

Be carefull out there.

[gr8owl]

Since there has been some stings going on recently here, and in swoop the vultures - entrepreneurs if you prefer

Does anyone know how reliable escortbusts is or is it just one of those websites where anyone can post a number?

I ran into it as well. However, since there are more escorts listed for some towns than those towns have seen in the last couple years, and since all the posted "warnings" direct you to an online hookup site i would say it is a totally bogus scam site that probably barely skirts slander laws - for now.

[pitbull]

Doesn't matter what city your high end Hotel is in .A few years ago, in Las Vegas , I left the adult video convention floor with a hot and fancy dressed porn actress to my hotel room. Our plan was that I was going to switch from what I wore to the convention into a tux, go out to dinner then to the awards show.

Imagine our suprise when we opened the door to leave my room just to see a couple of Vegas cops and the hotel manager about to knock on my door. We explained what we were doing,they said they saw us enter my room on the surveillance cameras and expected I had hired an escort. I told them to watch the footage as it would prove my alibi about changing clothes. They let us go.

Be carefull out there.

I believe you, JR, but it's kind of mind boggling that you would be harassed for going into a room with a woman who was dressed ultra provocatively. Especially when it's Vegas and there is an adult video convention going on, and it's not against the law to enter a room with a hot woman. And the irony is that a REAL ASP would likely be dressed way down to avoid attracting attention. That's just an amazing story, not incredible, but amazing.

It does go to show that there are cameras everywhere. It makes me think that private residences such as suburban homes may indeed be the safest venues to avoid stings.

I also wonder if this latest sting signals a crackdown on Fort Collins AMPs. They closed down two AMPs about two years ago, but there are now an astounding 11 AMPs in Fort Collins, but fortunately all of them are legit.

[Guest Kashmir]

This is not a just a Fort Collins event. It is a national thing. It looks like they were just working their way up the I-25 corridor.

Who knew it was a holiday?? What a way to celebrate...

The ninth "National Day of Johns Arrests" ran from Jan. 15 through Sunday.

Do we have a holiday yet?

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27444283/denver-police-arrest-20-part-national-prostitution-sting

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/04/08/springs-police-begin-john-shaming-in-hopes-to-curb-prostitution/

[licker69]

It looks like http://www.escortbusts.com/busts-in-denver/ is just a site scraping all the BP adds, then associating them with busts. This appears to just be a novel approach to FUD labeling every poster as a possible bust. I havent hit on escortbusts when googling before, but now it is showing up, so I guess this is a new site. Until shown otherwise I put no credibility into this site, just like TOsluts, but instead of saying every posting is great, says every posting is a bust. FWIW

[ash_36]

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2015/05/16/fort-collins-businessman-greeley-pastor-charged-sex-sting/27429459/

Looks like they are still at it, and shaming the johns. I would be careful up north and stay away from BP.