Fort Collins prostitution sting catches 10

[pitbull]

No, there used to be 600-700 girls posting on backpage everyday. Not anymore. ( some the few ads are lots of vice postings for john entrapment. There used to be around 100 girls posting on EB everyday just about. EB seem to be the same with amount of postings.

And apparently you cant read, I did not say" I was retiring" yet. I simply said its time to "consider the options." Only a fool would think "I'm never going to get busted." You must be forgetting I am a hooker, I get calls, text, emails from vice just like the other girls on regular basis.

I am watching vice getting past screening, in more ways than one. Remember nothing is 100% proof ever, even if iv seen you.

Prehaps my panic attacks have kept myself and few others from getting busted. If you have not noticed for the past year, being a hooker is not full time gig for me anymore. For obvious reasons.

I believe you, Nikki, that the numbers are going down. I admit that I don't track BP, and you are FAR MORE qualified to assess such matters. I am disgusted by LE devoting resources to snare average guys. Did these guys answer ads for obviously "trafficked" women (age inappropriate, etc). No. It does not seem so. They just answered an ad and went to a hotel not trying to hurt anyone. What a nightmare. My blood is chilled.

[Guest]

I believe you, Nikki, that the numbers are going down. I admit that I don't track BP, and you are FAR MORE qualified to assess such matters. I am disgusted by LE devoting resources to snare average guys. Did these guys answer ads for obviously "trafficked" women (age inappropriate, etc). No. It does not seem so. They just answered an ad and went to a hotel not trying to hurt anyone. What a nightmare. My blood is chilled.

I wish LE would leave us alone. Its very sad with public shaming for both providers and johns.

[Karl from Prague]

Reading this has certainly shaken me up.

I took a chance at a relatively unknown provider a few weeks ago. I met her in Ft. Collins and it was delightful. However, I really doubt I would have even taken the chance had that article appeared before that.

I can't imagine how bad it would be if my picture were to be among those posted in the Springs or Fort Collins. It's not a risk I am willing to take.

[Guest]

Here's a comment after the article in the Coloradoan.

I couldn't have said it better:

'Here we have yet another case of a black market being upheld by ignorant prohibition. Sexual control by our religious and governing institutions remains high...funnelling the act of paid sex into the dangerous, recessive corners of society.

Consensual adult sex - paid or unpaid - is an inherent freedom that every mentally healthy person deserves.'

Crap like this reminds me of the saying:

If you stop up the chimney, the smoke has to come out somewhere.

Let us folks have our fun -- please don't clog my chimney.

[dj278]

funnelling the act of paid sex into the dangerous, recessive corners of society.

It seems like we learned nothing from Prohibition...

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[The Oxymoron]

No, there used to be 600-700 girls posting on backpage everyday. Not anymore. ( some the few ads are lots of vice postings for john entrapment. There used to be around 100 girls posting on EB everyday just about. EB seem to be the same with amount of postings.

I am watching vice getting past screening, in more ways than one. Remember nothing is 100% proof ever, even if iv seen you.

Prehaps my panic attacks have kept myself and few others from getting busted. If you have not noticed for the past year, being a hooker is not full time gig for me anymore. For obvious reasons.

I can assure everyone that Nikki and her "stats" are not reliable in any shape or form.

Also, I'm not sure how a provider who has never been busted (by her own reports) can state "I am watching vice getting past screening, in more ways than one." When has she ever seen vice get past screening? Or perhaps she has HEARD (aka gossip) about vice getting past screening?

People, nothing has changed from 2 months ago, 2 years ago, or 20 years ago.

All vice departments have a budget and a job to do, which includes doing regular low level prostitution stings. Typically BP outcalls to a hotel room (where they control the environment). Rarely they will do a more high level bust.... maybe one every couple of years or so, that takes out a large agency or hits the news in a more significant way.

Yes, it's scary... but we are talking about misdemeanors here. Along the lines of driving without insurance, just way more embarrassing. Mitigate your risks as much as possible,and if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Try not to let paranoia eat you alive.... be prepared to deal with a misdemeanor IF the worst happens, but do everything you can to avoid it, of course!

Edited April 12, 2015 by The Oxymoron

[Guest]

Yes, it's scary... but we are talking about misdemeanors here. Along the lines of driving without insurance, just way more embarrassing. Mitigate your risks as much as possible,and if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Try not to let paranoia eat you alive.... be prepared to deal with a misdemeanor IF the worst happens (it's really not THAT big of a deal 99% of the time), but do everything you can to avoid it, of course!

Well said Oxy. There is some over-reaction going on.

But speaking of over-reaction: Why post photos of misdemeanor offenders?

I don't see a big splash with photos of DWI offenders, or wife beaters, or [fill in the blank]

REALLY?

[Bit Banger]

Well said Oxy. There is some over-reaction going on.

But speaking of over-reaction: Why post photos of misdemeanor offenders?

I don't see a big splash with photos of DWI offenders, or wife beaters, or [fill in the blank]

REALLY?

Because the 'holy rollers' can't convince legislators to up the crime to a felony or to increase the fines & jail penalties. So instead they convince local LE to increase punishment with the pillory (shame & disruption of their lives).

[Audrey Astor]

I don't think hotels are entirely scary either. I am not going to post how I check in, my cover story, my look etc. Like all of the other areas of the hobby, just use your head. Some people may not agree with me, but here are some things I would look for:

- Does the lady appear to be intelligent, and mature? Is her face in her ad? Are her ads filled with spelling and grammar mistakes? That is not a concise indicator, but to me it clues me into being diligent and concise. Someone that is diligent, probably knows how to stay under the radar.

- Look like you fit in. Carry your brief case, computer bag etc. Appear to be on your phone discussing business while entering. Get a clear understanding from the lady of how to navigate through the lobby, where the elevator is etc, so you are not looking like you do not know where you are going. I prefer larger 4 star hotels. They do not want LE attention there.

- See low volume ladies. A lady with low rates, could possibly be running a revolving door. There are other clues that tell you who is high vs. low volume.

Obviously nothing is 100% fool proof, but try to be smart, and you decrease your chances of having negative issues.

[pitbull]

Reading this has certainly shaken me up.

I took a chance at a relatively unknown provider a few weeks ago. I met her in Ft. Collins and it was delightful. However, I really doubt I would have even taken the chance had that article appeared before that.

I can't imagine how bad it would be if my picture were to be among those posted in the Springs or Fort Collins. It's not a risk I am willing to take.

Damn. You need to count your lucky stars, comrade.

[Karl from Prague]

Because the 'holy rollers' can't convince legislators to up the crime to a felony or to increase the fines & jail penalties. So instead they convince local LE to increase punishment with the pillory (shame & disruption of their lives).

And that, right there, is the issue. Public shaming makes taking chances like that too risky.

I'm going to lay low for a while... staying on familiar territory if I do opt to hobby.

[IncogNito32]

Many thanks to Inkspot for pointing this out. I did not see it.

I actually got a PM from a guy recently (with double digit posts on TOB) that said something like, "I'm seeing a hot 22-year-old in FILL-IN-BLANK city. PM me for details." Just seemed really spooky. We can't assume that all TOB-ers are legit.

I'm royally freaked out. I'm also extremely pissed at the Fort Collins police for wasting taxpayer dollars. Those faces they showed were just pathetic -- just guys looking to ease their tension in a world that can be so lonely. Fucking idiot cops.

Sounds like pitbull may have been one of the dudes in the lineup...my guess is bottom middle =X

And there were supposedly 10 arrest but only 6 pictures posted? Looks like some rats may have escaped...

Hotels are sketchy yes, but imagine having them confiscate your house on an outcall, i wonder if these guys lost their cars?

The reason why police setup stings at hotels is its less work and much safer for them. They have 20 people waiting for the dude to show up and even if he has a weapon in his car most likely would be nearly impossible for him to get to it, so their only risk is if he has a gun on his waste, but usually these types of dudes only carry one type of gun and it doesn't shoot very well =P

All joking aside police rarely go after private residences because "these cases are not worth risking yours or our lives" and they would rather just go after easy cases or ones that are personal or more serious. There could be a gang of shooters waiting at a house (no pun intended) and a simple escort sting could cost numerous lives, but think about how easy a stake out on a known addresse would be? Wait until an obvious dude knocks then raid them and confiscate their phones for evidence. But by not talking about any services in text it would be nearly impossible to prove what was going on and hence a waste of time.

A way to make yourself safer would be to leave your phone and your keys hidden in your car blocks away, then if anything does happen they have no evidence aside from you knocking on a door which may as it turns out be enough but at least they.won't.be.able to steal your.car and you could claim u were visiting a friend and had the room numbers mixed up.

Its pathetic our.global slavery imposing babysitters need to keep their.slaves so weak, they dont want us to have any fun or $ while the slave masters sit around in their trillion $ castles and yachts...smh this is why I support the meritocracy movement 100% inheritance tax and 1 million wealth limit.

And gentlemen stop taking advantage of the desperate situation of these crazy woman. Find one you really like and try to help them out of the situation because there isnt a woman alive that would want to fuck all.6 of the dudes in.that lineup but thats exactly what.these women face on a daily basis. Find one u like and safe her/ take care of her and she will love u forever

[Guest]

I don't think hotels are entirely scary either. I am not going to post how I check in, my cover story, my look etc. Like all of the other areas of the hobby, just use your head. Some people may not agree with me, but here are some things I would look for:

- Does the lady appear to be intelligent, and mature? Is her face in her ad? Are her ads filled with spelling and grammar mistakes? That is not a concise indicator, but to me it clues me into being diligent and concise. Someone that is diligent, probably knows how to stay under the radar.

- Look like you fit in. Carry your brief case, computer bag etc. Appear to be on your phone discussing business while entering. Get a clear understanding from the lady of how to navigate through the lobby, where the elevator is etc, so you are not looking like you do not know where you are going. I prefer larger 4 star hotels. They do not want LE attention there.

- See low volume ladies. A lady with low rates, could possibly be running a revolving door. There are other clues that tell you who is high vs. low volume.

Obviously nothing is 100% fool proof, but try to be smart, and you decrease your chances of having negative issues.

+1! Well said Holly!!

And that, right there, is the issue. Public shaming makes taking chances like that too risky.

I'm going to lay low for a while... staying on familiar territory if I do opt to hobby.

Good Call!!

[Lucy Kitten]

Well said Oxy. There is some over-reaction going on.

But speaking of over-reaction: Why post photos of misdemeanor offenders?

I don't see a big splash with photos of DWI offenders, or wife beaters, or [fill in the blank]

REALLY?

It's tactical. This is what happened in Sweden and it got "results" so it's not totally surprising that it's spreading. In my opinion the shaming is not only to dissuade potential "criminals" but to make women feel like victims so we can give up this nasty game.

Wishing something wasn't so doesn't make it true. Lot's of mugshots for lots of different crimes are posted, this just happens to hit closer to home. It plagues on our fears and feeds the paranoia. Is it wrong to publicly shame someone for consenting in adult activities? Yes but it's still illegal . We all know the why of it but now it's time to focus on the how. How are we going to fix the issue. How interested as individuals are we in fighting the fight?

[Bit Banger]

... consenting in adult activities? Yes but it's still illegal . We all know the why of it ...

George Carlin's take

[Guest]

I believe this story confirms something I pretty much have assumed. A lot of the "rules" commonly used to stay out of trouble are pretty much silly. They didn't even get in the door. So leaving a donation on a table and saying nothing about it blah blah never even came into play. I really do want to believe there was some correspondence that happened before the fact that was stupid.

[gr8owl]

You are correct, you did not say you were retiring. I apologize for misquoting you. What you said was:

"This is becoming way to high risk for me. Its time for me to consider on retiring. Its only a matter of time at this point. I would be a fool to think otherwise."

I misinterpreted that your intent was to retire ...... where did I get that??? But, the main point is that it seems to me you were (are) over-reacting just a tad. That I stand by. As was stated elsewhere - don't be stupid, don't be low hanging fruit for LE, manage your risk. Or consider getting out.

[Gizzicka Dior]

Wow!!!

I just want to say I hope you all are being VERY safe and seeing providers who have been verified!!!

[parkercole]

I can assure everyone that Nikki and her "stats" are not reliable in any shape or form.

Also, I'm not sure how a provider who has never been busted (by her own reports) can state "I am watching vice getting past screening, in more ways than one." When has she ever seen vice get past screening? Or perhaps she has HEARD (aka gossip) about vice getting past screening?

People, nothing has changed from 2 months ago, 2 years ago, or 20 years ago.

All vice departments have a budget and a job to do, which includes doing regular low level prostitution stings. Typically BP outcalls to a hotel room (where they control the environment). Rarely they will do a more high level bust.... maybe one every couple of years or so, that takes out a large agency or hits the news in a more significant way.

Yes, it's scary... but we are talking about misdemeanors here. Along the lines of driving without insurance, just way more embarrassing. Mitigate your risks as much as possible,and if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Try not to let paranoia eat you alive.... be prepared to deal with a misdemeanor IF the worst happens, but do everything you can to avoid it, of course!

well stated oxy! I'm always curious to why nikki never responds to your rebuttals? this always leads me to believe who's position holds more weight or is valid. and I can only conclude the other perspective is a bit off the handle.......

[Guest]

You are correct, you did not say you were retiring. I apologize for misquoting you. What you said was:

"This is becoming way to high risk for me. Its time for me to consider on retiring. Its only a matter of time at this point. I would be a fool to think otherwise."

I misinterpreted that your intent was to retire ...... where did I get that??? But, the main point is that it seems to me you were (are) over-reacting just a tad. That I stand by. As was stated elsewhere - don't be stupid, don't be low hanging fruit for LE, manage your risk. Or consider getting out.

I am already semi retired to 50%, I am low volume. Soon to be less than that! Try telling that to all the people who have gotten busted with police shaming. With more to come. lol

Am I over-reacting? Maybe I should stop being so careful. Lets see how that works out... because it doesn't. I still feel the same way today, as I did yesterday. So I guess that mean I am over reacting. So be it! When I am ready to make another decision I will. I don't think or feel I am over-reacting. Remember, Vice is whole a lot smarter than they are given credit for. Its not wise to think that vice cant come up with ways for entrapment. Not mention its not just always vice doing the stings. FBI does too. BTW LE does not just pick on girls who are considered low hanging fruit. They make contact with every girl including UTR girls. Otherwise they are not doing their job and showing favoritism. I am already managing my risk and them some with my over reacting. lol Maybe thats why Iv never been busted. But running full time means more risk. Putting all your eggs in one basket while committing a crime means more risk.

With there no longer being 600/700 girls posting everyday, like it used to be, this gives them more opportunity, more time, to stay focused on small circle of girls.

"I misinterpreted that your intent was to retire" Its my intent to retire down to another 25% as some point. IDK when I will make this move. But I will. I will never fully retire to a zero. Maybe I should start using the word part time. But I will never stop being careful.

[The Oxymoron]

BTW LE does not just pick on girls who are considered low hanging fruit. They make contact with every girl including UTR girls. Otherwise they are not doing their job and showing favoritism.

Again, how the hell do you know??? You have exactly zero personal experience in this department, so what makes you the expert in these matters? How do you know who they are contacting? Or whether they give a rats ass about "favoritism".

I am already managing my risk and them some with my over reacting. lol Maybe thats why Iv never been busted.

Or maybe it's because a reasonably careful provider who is working full time for five years can expect to get busted approximately once. That's about the average, and yes I have a shitload of personal experience. It really just boils down to luck and a little bit of street smarts in the end.

I wouldn't ride too much on your street smarts, btw.

[Guest]

Okay you kids. Don't make me pull this car over!

Remember. We're all on the same side of this.

Play safe everyone.

[The Oxymoron]

Okay you kids. Don't make me pull this car over!

Remember. We're all on the same side of this.

Play safe everyone.

No kidding.... thanks for the reminder. Zippin it!

[DaveinPhoenix]

Today is much worse than even 3 years ago. The 36 leaders of the American rescue industry shared a startlingly massive combined total budget of approximately $1.2 billion in the most recent year for which records are available (2012, in most cases).

Huge grants to local LE using fake research and ideas that all prostitutes are victims and have to be saved. Just huge spending all across the U.S. going after in private consenting adults to build the numbers for the vast "rescue industry."

[Guest]

It has always been my belief that hotels should be avoided at all cost for this reason. Guy's this is a prime example of why screening is so necessary. You may be leery of putting you information out there, do your homework first on your provider make sure she is reputably then make your call. Remember this only works if we all work together.

[Guest]

Nikki I think the risk has always been there, what makes it hard to be safe is the guys who refuse to do screening. Only here in the land of the free can we get in trouble for _ _ _ _ I N G something that belongs to us.

This is becoming way to high risk for me. Its time for me to consider on retiring. Its only a matter of time at this point. I would be a fool to think otherwise. Just for the record, NO I have not been busted.

[Guest]

Nikki I think the risk has always been there, what makes it hard to be safe is the guys who refuse to do screening. Only here in the land of the free can we get in trouble for _ _ _ _ I N G something that belongs to us.

To secure the safety and privacy of both Providers and Johns is by telling the johns about p411. And encouraging them to get p411s service. Yesenia, for obvious reasons I no longer feel the same way. Nothing is 100% proof even if they screen. P411 I feel is best service for screening as an option. Its really simple, when guys call, they refuse to screen. All you have to do lead them in the right direction mention p411 as option for them provide them a link.

[Guest]

I am not trying to directly or in directly say any thing I hope I did not offend or make you feel like I was saying anything other then I feel the same as you. There has always been an effort to step up the stings to stop the situation, nothing is full proof. I too have been working on getting my self set up for retirement its not that easy with our life style.

To secure the safety and privacy of both Providers and Johns is by telling the johns about p411. And encouraging them to get p411s service. Yesenia, for obvious reasons I no longer feel the same way. Nothing is 100% proof even if they screen. P411 I feel is best service for screening as an option. Its really simple, when guys call, they refuse to screen. All you have to do lead them in the right direction mention p411 as option for them provide them a link.

[Guest]

I see this happening across the country, all using the same weak justification to combat underage human trafficking. They even all use the same phrase:

"Colorado is considered an emerging hub for sex trafficking and prostitution in the United States, partly due to its central location and system of major interstates that run across the state, investigators say. "

Just substitute Atlanta or Ohio and you can see a nationwide trend.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=is+considered+an+emerging+hub+for+sex+trafficking

While LE is monitoring boards like this and there is some attractiveness to busting a well established gent or lady, that is not really what they are after. Bust after bust across the nation shows guys like the ones in Ft. Collins, along with BP ladies. Its really sad that taxpayer resources are going after this and not true criminals.

But, the sky is not falling. Using screening services like P411 and Date-Check for both ladies and gents, staying off BP, and being discrete in all activities is the way to stay safe and keep hobbying.

[dj278]

Only here in the land of the free can we get in trouble for _ _ _ _ I N G something that belongs to us.

+1