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I received a call yesterday evening from a long time provider in Ft. Collins. She said to read the Coloradoan. LE has been busy up north. Looks like hotels should be avoided at all cost. It seems a john would set up an appointment at a hotel. When no one answered the door, he left and was arrested in the parking lot. Yep, arrested for knocking on a door.

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Situational awareness, guys.

All newbies:

Until you've got the handle on things, see ONLY reputable, well reviewed ladies.

When you visit their incall at the hotel, scan the parking lot BEFORE you exit your car. Learn to look for "normal." Do this RELIGIOUSLY. Make a game of it. It only takes a minute.

After a while, a hotel parking lot with lots of guys sitting in cars, or an abnormal number of cars with government plates, or lots of marked patrol cars parked within a block of the place, will jump out at you.

Practice, practice, practice. The first time you notice this, you will feel like James-fucking-Bond. AND you will still be safe because you are visiting a reputable, well reviewed lady.

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http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/crime/2015/04/10/fort-collins-prostitution-sting/25596725/

Yes, just knocking on the door can get you arrested. Soliciting for setting up appointment, patronizing since intent.

http://prostitution.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=726#12

FtC Backpage has always seemed like a place to stay away from. Too many out-of-state ads, TGTBT pics, etc. I know, slim pickings there, DTC too far a drive, etc, no other choice. Not a believer in the old "stick to known providers", but for now in FtC, "stick to known providers" when they do show.

But even then, you might get caught: per the article, "innkeeper program", sounds like a program Louisville put in place, and in a couple of cases there, actually called the cops. From what I remember, those motels used to be Ho Central for Boulder county, then poof, very little activity there. Seemed to slow it down a bunch at those locales.

For example for Louisville: http://www.theotherboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=138766&highlight=louisville#post138766

And a thread about hotel employees getting training to spot prostitution from Nov: http://www.theotherboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40296

ADD: not going to dig up the thread, if still on the board, but can get caught even if PD not doing prostitution sting. There was a story years ago in the Boulder paper. PD staking out motel for a [forbidden topic] deal. Saw two women pull in, one goes into room. Some guy shows up shortly, goes in, comes back out 20 min later. Cops stop him and ask what's going on. And he answers he was with a hooker. He's run in, the hooker, and her madame (the old Twin Peaks ads in Oyster, for the old timers out there).

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This is becoming way to high risk for me. Its time for me to consider on retiring. Its only a matter of time at this point. I would be a fool to think otherwise. Just for the record, NO I have not been busted.

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Hotels scare me.

"Investigators are partnering with area businesses through a new 'innkeeper training program' aimed at teaching hotel staffers how to spot ? and report ? behaviors that might constitute voluntary prostitution or coercive sex trafficking."

Been hearing a lot about this on here lately. Now hotels scare me even more. Anyone concerned that DTC will be targeted by this kind of thing? I've often thought, it can't be that hard for them to figure out what's going on. Someone recently posted some insane story about hanging out in a hotel lobby all day trying to reschedule an appointment. Give me a break. Sure, the hotels are happy to make the money, but the employee working at the desk isn't seeing any of that. It's not hard for me to imagine a morality seeker calling in LE. I'd sure hate to be the guy who happened to be in the room when they knock on the door. "Poindexter here was loitering in the lobby. Clerk called us and Poindexter said there was human trafficking going on up here." If Poindexter is stupid enough to sit in the lobby of a hotel all day waiting for a woman to call, you think he's going to be Cool Hand Luke when LE shows up?

I did a hotel incall once in my very early days. Since then, only providers working out of private incall. I'm not saying I'll never go to a hotel, but it's a huge minus. There's a provider I'd really like to meet, but she only does hotels. And honestly, that's why I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

And I sure as hell hope everyone I've had the pleasure of meeting is smart enough to politely decline to answer any questions if we ever find ourselves in a compromised situation. That last story MrVegas shared is just crazy.

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Hotels scare me.

Since one YL alerted me to the cameras in her hotel hallway I see them everywhere. Of course there are also cameras in the parking lots.

I've started parking down the block instead of hotel parking lots, and changing up my appearance a bit.

The surveillance technology is advanced enough to figure out what is going on, it just takes the effort now.

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This is becoming way to high risk for me. Its time for me to consider on retiring. Its only a matter of time at this point. I would be a fool to think otherwise. Just for the record, NO I have not been busted.

If you have trouble, it's time for us all to quit. You have to be one of the more cautious women in the game.

I've not yet had the pleasure, but I'm pretty sure you do private incall. Honestly, if I hear a legit story of a smart provider being busted at a private incall, I'll be seriously concerned. When I hear a legit story of a client being busted while seeing an established provider at her private incall, I'll have made my last visit.

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I've started parking down the block instead of hotel parking lots, and changing up my appearance a bit.

I've started parking around the corner for private incalls. Kind of spooked the last woman I saw for a minute. She likes to watch you drive up. Which is why I've started parking around the corner. She told me if we hadn't spent time beforehand on the phone, and she wasn't so sure I was legit, she'd have hung up. She is VERY low volume and works from her home. So she's VERY conscious of security. Women like that make me feel a lot safer. If she's appropriately concerned about me being legit, I feel a lot more confidant that she's legit. I'm guessing if you're talking to Barnaby Jones, all he cares about is getting you to knock on that door.

I may have gone from one extreme to another with regard to security, but no sense giving anyone any more information than I have to.

As for my apperance, I met a woman a few weeks ago who was appropriately concerned since we'd never met before. She made a lighthearted joke about me being LE. I almost said "Do I look like a cop?" Then I looked at the mirror in her ceiling and thought "Dude, you totally do look like a cop." I've reached that age where I've become the invisible man. And I tend to wear a cap and sun glasses pretty much all the time. If I stand out in any way, it's because I'm the guy who is conspicuously inconspicuous.

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If you have trouble, it's time for us all to quit. You have to be one of the more cautious women in the game.

I've not yet had the pleasure, but I'm pretty sure you do private incall. Honestly, if I hear a legit story of a smart provider being busted at a private incall, I'll be seriously concerned. When I hear a legit story of a client being busted while seeing an established provider at her private incall, I'll have made my last visit.

Do not kid yourself. Weather anyone wants to admit it or not, Vice does private incall stings too, not just hotels. Established providers have been busted. Common since, it is only a matter of time. I am upfront about this. I am not in kidding myself. Nothing is 100% secure. Its one thing to get outed by providers, it another when your face hits channel 9news all over colorado online news, news papers. Just being upfront.

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Do not kid yourself. Weather anyone wants to admit it or not, Vice does private incall stings too, not just hotels.

It is extremely rare.... and I mean EXTREMELY.

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Well this makes sense on some of the requests I received while I was just visiting.

For those who claimed to have no references I was strict on my requirements and had some colorful heated responses in return.

I realize most of the stings were from BP but I'm guessing they test girls off of EB from time to time too. Keeping a very low profile (and excellent cover story) while traveling is essential.

I will continue with my strict screening policies because I'm too pretty for jail, thank you very much!!!

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This is becoming way to high risk for me. Its time for me to consider on retiring. Its only a matter of time at this point. I would be a fool to think otherwise. Just for the record, NO I have not been busted.

I understand being prudent when these things happen, but this and the comments about private incall busts seem to be an overreaction.

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It is extremely rare.... and I mean EXTREMELY.

Yeah, I would think that since LE is likely motivated by getting arrests to justify and/or increase budgets, they would go after the low-hanging fruit first, such as BP stings. Seems like the most bang for the buck.

Yes, I know nothing is 100% safe.

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I have a private incall but I am a bundle of nerves working from hotels while touring. Hilton hotels in particular have trained all their employees to spot escorts. I've been considering switching to upscale condos on Airbnb when I tour.

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Based on the contents of this link, there are a LOT of situations where prostitution related charges could be brought.

Say you're shacked up with a gal (POOSSLQ) but you make disparate contributions to the household bills. She's not your wife but you have exchanged something of value (support of her living conditions) and if you're having sex, is that prostitution?

...There was a story years ago in the Boulder paper. PD staking out motel for a [forbidden topic] deal. Saw two women pull in, one goes into room. Some guy shows up shortly, goes in, comes back out 20 min later. Cops stop him and ask what's going on. And he answers he was with a hooker. He's run in, the hooker, and her madame (the old Twin Peaks ads in Oyster, for the old timers out there).

That's just a colossal case of STUPID!!! He should have not answered, or at the very least merely said that he was visiting a friend. He got what he deserved; the hooker & madame not so much.

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Last week I found two reviews on tobreviews and one on another site which mentioned actual hotel names! Talk about STUPID...

Mods were notified and all were redacted.

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Gents: Stick with reputable proven companions who screen fully and do not work "volume" . Seriously..if she is only seeing one friend a day in a hotel..it doesn't Matter whether it is a hotel or anywhere else...3-4 friends a day...draws red flags.

Providers: Know who is walking thru your door...don't draw attention to yourself by operating a revolving door.

it's not that hard people... smh stings will always happen..and always get the "i want an appt right now and don't want to be screened" crowd every time. You have to be an idiot to be low hanging fruit.

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It seems a john would set up an appointment at a hotel. When no one answered the door, he left and was arrested in the parking lot. Yep, arrested for knocking on a door.

Now someone out there can correct me if I am wrong: the phone conversation leading up to the appointment would have to include some explicit details. If the John simply says "how much is your donation?" then there is no case. There must be some explicit (and foolish) discussion of details for the arrest to go down.

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Gents: Stick with reputable proven companions who screen fully and do not work "volume" . Seriously..if she is only seeing one friend a day in a hotel..it doesn't Matter whether it is a hotel or anywhere else...3-4 friends a day...draws red flags.

Okay, I've wondered and this seems like a good time to ask. How do women rent rooms during the day? Isn't it odd to show up at 10AM or whatever looking for a room? Most places I've stayed, you can't even check in until 3PM.

Sorry, this is just way out of my realm of experience. Though I have a standing offer from an old FWB if I pay for a room.

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Deep Breath Everyone...

One city is not more riskier, than the next. One day is not more riskier, than the next.

The law is always looking for people, who break it. It doesn't matter if it is prostitution, dealing drugs, or texting while driving ect. A 'sting' more and more means, it just made the newspaper. Arrests are being made everyday.

Is BP more riskier, I am not sure. I think it just in the newspaper more. Along with myself, I see other highly reputable providers advertising there every day.

Is a private incall safer than a hotel? Maybe...maybe not. All it takes is one nosy neighbor to call the police and say, "My neighbor has a lot of visitors."

As a provider booking hotels, just takes some common sense.

Reviews can lead to trouble too. One day the police may decide to arrest, well known escorts. If they want to guarantee that they will get a true escort, they will pick one with many reviews.

As a client, I think a huge red flag would be the escort that says, "Sure come now."

As a provider, I think the big risk is saying, "Sure I will come now."

No one needs to "Cum now!".

Be patient. Have a phone conversation or 2. Ask questions.

If you don't want to know about me, I don't want to meet you.

If you wont let me know ,a little about you. It is not safe for me to meet you.

Screen each other, and play safe.

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Many thanks to Inkspot for pointing this out. I did not see it.

I actually got a PM from a guy recently (with double digit posts on TOB) that said something like, "I'm seeing a hot 22-year-old in FILL-IN-BLANK city. PM me for details." Just seemed really spooky. We can't assume that all TOB-ers are legit.

I'm royally freaked out. I'm also extremely pissed at the Fort Collins police for wasting taxpayer dollars. Those faces they showed were just pathetic -- just guys looking to ease their tension in a world that can be so lonely. Fucking idiot cops.

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just guys looking to ease their tension in a world that can be so lonely. Fucking idiot cops.

+1

Democracy is held up as the ideal, but when the majority decides your behavior is bad... It's a slippery slope.

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Yeah, I would think that since LE is likely motivated by getting arrests to justify and/or increase budgets, they would go after the low-hanging fruit first, such as BP stings. Seems like the most bang for the buck.

Yes, I know nothing is 100% safe.

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There used to be hundreds of girls they could bust. Now there not so many girls. The pool of girls is getting smaller.

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I have a private incall but I am a bundle of nerves working from hotels while touring. Hilton hotels in particular have trained all their employees to spot escorts. I've been considering switching to upscale condos on Airbnb when I tour.

Yes they have.

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Gents: Stick with reputable proven companions who screen fully and do not work "volume" and we know who is high vs. low volume by ????. Seriously..if she is only seeing one friend a day in a hotel one a day in a hotel means break even at best - not ever happening intentionally..it doesn't Matter whether it is a hotel or anywhere else...3-4 friends a day...draws red flags.

Providers: Know who is walking thru your door...don't draw attention to yourself by operating a revolving door.

it's not that hard people... smh stings will always happen..and always get the "i want an appt right now and don't want to be screened" crowd every time. You have to be an idiot to be low hanging fruit.Holy shit, knocked it out of park with this one - keeper suitable for framing! Seriously

You are absolutely correct that stings will keep happening AND it will be the low hanging fruit - amp's and stings set up to arrest johns with entrapment ads on BP. Those take zero effort - they almost arrest themselves. For stings to be set up to go after escorts takes a lot of work and will probably only be triggered by obviously being the honest to goodness human trafficking scum bags the bust articles claim or from complaints from neighbors, hotel management, apartment managers that were turned down for freeby, etc.

For the newbie guys and the slow learners - sure go ahead and keep responding to BP ads with out of state phone numbers, for escorts listed as barely legal that don't look that old, and that are only in town for short while. Keeps the heat off the rest of us when you are getting busted right and left. Thank you!:rolleyes:

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There used to be hundreds of girls they could bust. Now there not so many girls. The pool of girls is getting smaller.

First you are going to retire, now this? Do you have panic attacks often Ms. Holiday? For clarity, I usually largely agree with your be very cautious and give little or no personal info posts - just not taken quite to the extremes you state, but this is over the top. With 170 BP adds today for Denver alone, at least that many active p411's, and 60 some ads on EB (90's during the week) I don't see the shrinking pool, shortage of ladies theory.

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First you are going to retire, I have not made a public statement saying I am retiring. So do not assume. Do not put words into my mouth, you don't speak for me. now this? Do you have panic attacks often Ms. Holiday? For clarity, I usually largely agree with your be very cautious and give little or no personal info posts - just not taken quite to the extremes you state, but this is over the top. With 170 BP adds today for Denver alone, at least that many active p411's, and 60 some ads on EB (90's during the week) I don't see the shrinking pool, shortage of ladies theory.

No, there used to be 600-700 girls posting on backpage everyday. Not anymore. ( some the few ads are lots of vice postings for john entrapment. There used to be around 100 girls posting on EB everyday just about. EB seem to be the same with amount of postings.

And apparently you cant read, I did not say" I was retiring" yet. I simply said its time to "consider the options." Only a fool would think "I'm never going to get busted." You must be forgetting I am a hooker, I get calls, text, emails from vice just like the other girls on regular basis.

I am watching vice getting past screening, in more ways than one. Remember nothing is 100% proof ever, even if iv seen you.

Prehaps my panic attacks have kept myself and few others from getting busted. If you have not noticed for the past year, being a hooker is not full time gig for me anymore. For obvious reasons.

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I agree with the posts about sticking with reputable providers who have safe locations.

IMO Hotels have become a lot more risky lately. I saw one post on here about hotels in the DTC area watching for red flags when woman check-in and then looking to see if they can find their posts online so they can bust them. Not sure what most providers do for their check in process, but be careful. Also, keep traffic low unless you have ideal set up.

From a hobbyist standpoint if you go to hotels try to enter and/or exit through side doors so you don't draw a lot of attention. Just saw a lady at an upscale hotel. It during the day and not a lot of cars were in parking lot or guests traffic at the time. I couldn't find a side door so had to go through lobby. Bellhops saw me enter and exit which made me real nervous. :eek:

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