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What are some things you have learned either hobbying or escorting

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1) Smoking a cigar in your car with windows up will deaden any smell you can imagine.

I can't remember who, but I think someone posted a while back that the best way to get rid of a smell on your skin/clothes (ASP's perfume or body smells) before heading home is to change the oil in your car. That is a bit extreme for me, but I have stopped off at the gas station before to top off my car (and spill a little gasoline on my hands in the process).

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sometimes the best times can be had under less than ideal environments....

confirmed for myself, that people are people, wherever you choose to hang out....

I've had the good fortune of meeting mostly great ladies, with the occasional mis-hit; TOFTT,

you just have to roll with experience, and keep positive vibes going...

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Purell works, too and a little less toxic...

I can't remember who, but I think someone posted a while back that the best way to get rid of a smell on your skin/clothes (ASP's perfume or body smells) before heading home is to change the oil in your car. That is a bit extreme for me, but I have stopped off at the gas station before to top off my car (and spill a little gasoline on my hands in the process).
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Never call a crazy escort crazy. It's a lot like waking a sleep walker. It's fun to watch not fun to be apart.

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I've learned that many hobbyist have really great dicks, fuck well, kiss well, and give awesome DATY!

Aw shucks, is it ok if I just pretend that you were talking about me?

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Never call a crazy escort crazy. It's a lot like waking a sleep walker. It's fun to watch not fun to be apart.

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I've quickly learned to tell real pics from the fakes.

I've also come to appreciate it when a provider gives you the unexpected gift of a bbbjcim when you didn't ask for it.

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Stupid questions are a little easier to ask in person than on the phone but best of all left unspoken and unanswered.

Sexual chemistry is very rare and is usually a first-visit phenomenon. Put another way, I am very good at finding reasons to pass on second and third visits.

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Some things I've learned:

1) In my personal experience, 90% of the "working girls" out there fall into a class of people that I struggle to describe. They are givers of love, life, emotion, compassion, human connection, etc. Tough to put into words, but definitely a distinct personality type, and definitely something I've experienced with most of the working girls I've been with. I imagine some will say that this is just the front that they're supposed to put on, and to an extent I agree, but I also think this is something you just don't fake. It's just an integral part of a lot of these girls. Looking into this "hobby" from the outside a couple years ago, I would have expected it to be filled with a lot more jaded, cold, detached people, but to my surprise, I consistently encounter the opposite.

2) Beauty and nice smelling pussies do not correlate. She might be hot, but that doesn't mean she doesn't stink... and vice-versa, just because she's a 40-something MILF with a couple of kids under her belt doesn't mean that she doesn't smell HOT.

3) "Mature" women rock. Don't get me wrong, I love the young hotties, but I usually have more fun with the mom's and the women with some life experience.

4) Fetishes: I do sometimes love it when girls tie me up and do some mean and nasty things to me. I am consistently surprised at how many girls would rather fuck than do fetish-orientated things, many of which don't even require them to remove their clothes or get dirty. If I was a working girl and had the choice between bedding down with some random dude, or tying him up and doing mean things to him, I think I'd much rather go the fetish route. But in my experience most girls would rather just get it on sexually. I don't understand this.

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I've learned if I have something bad to say or do, I don't do it, say it or put it in writing.

I've been learning, reading between the lines has more truth to it.

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~ If you truly want to see someone, reach out to them and see them before they retire or move on. This works for ladies too!

~ If you truly want to see someone, reach out to them and see them before they go & get that BooB Job.

  • For those who love the A & B cup natural beauties..

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~ If you truly want to see someone, reach out to them and see them before they go & get that BooB Job.

  • For those who love the A & B cup natural beauties..

SO much this!!! ^^^^ I just fell victim to this exact pitfall. I'll probably still see her because she's been on my radar for an eternity, but still...so sad when those natural A & B's go away.

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SO much this!!! ^^^^ I just fell victim to this exact pitfall. I'll probably still see her because she's been on my radar for an eternity, but still...so sad when those natural A & B's go away.

Yes I am saddened tooo......

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1. I've learned what it is like to get hit by a lightning bolt. It happened to me hobbying in Oklahoma in 1997, and it happened hobbying here in 2005. Those are memories that NEVER leave you.

2. I've learned that these gals are all individuals....none one like the other. Sounds simplistic, but it's something I've learned.

3. I've learned (again) that I enjoy helping people as a lawyer. A number of both the ASP's and hobbyist's have reached out to me over the years. and although I got absolutely zero compensation, I had a good feeling when I hung up the phone after having pointed someone in the right direction.

4. And I've learned that great memories well outlive the money you spent to make them. My sister-in-law has said to me (several times) "You can't take it with you"- and she's right- but you can have the memory of a fantastic afternoon or evening for the rest of your life.

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4. And I've learned that great memories well outlive the money you spent to make them. My sister-in-law has said to me (several times) "You can't take it with you"- and she's right- but you can have the memory of a fantastic afternoon or evening for the rest of your life.

AND you get to confuse the hell out of them as you rock away with a grin on your face at the Ole Folks' Home. ;)

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I've learned to always trust my first impressions, it has served me well.

I've also learned to talk to my wife to see if she approves.(eat your hearts out fellas)

First and foremost, I've learned that a pretty face and body doesn't equal a great provider. It's all about the personality, the passion, the lady her charm, her personality and her sense of one's self......We've met a lot of nice lady's that we have become friends with. Good friends with. In and out of the bedroom..... Those people we cherish the most.

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Have definitely learned that the saying different strokes for different folks, really applies. Some of the 411's, wow.

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If you decide to see sketchy ladies, don't be surprised with a sketchy experience. I will say it can be an adventure, kind of, but it most often costs you in time and money.

I've had better sex with these ladies than I ever did with any girl friend/wife, although there is no experience on earth like a 'first kiss' with someone you've been courting.

Take your time deciding who to see. I've gotten into trouble, more often than not, because I had to have it 'right now'. To avoid this problem, do your research when you're not so horny and be prepared (pre-screen, read reviews, check out their website if they have one)

Don't worry about what you like to do. But don't expect to get it from every lady. Also, you'll have a better time if you let her be herself. Who knows, you might learn something. If there is something different that turns you on (I'm speaking from personal experience), there is some lady out there somewhere who likes it too. (see: take your time) There's nothing that hasn't been done before.

Have fun! If it's not fun, you're wasting everybody's time.

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[/Never lose sight of the fact that these ladies make their living by getting men to give them money. When you no longer serve this purpose, why would you expect anything else?

I saw my ATF regularly for about 3 years. During that time we talked every day and that continues to now several years later. We meet as friends and she helps enormously with my illness. Now that I can't drive she does my errands.

This is not something to expect but just an example of how some of the ladies here are very compassionate and not every thing is about the money.

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I don't know you so I never chimed in on your other thread. But I wish you the best. I know there are women such as the one you describe out in the provider world. They are rare and precious. You are a blessed man.

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The the most important thing I have learned is how to distinguish between a hobbyist and a client.

I also learned that my thirst for knowledge extends beyond academic pursuits. I have had the opportunity to try many things that I had never thought I would have done before. I feel like Alice falling down the rabbit hole, the deeper I go the more I find, the more I enjoy! I'm definitely enjoying the ride.

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1. Every section of the country has their own regional sites 2. Through research has minimized my bad experiences 3. The experience is totally different in different areas of the country 4. Girls that don't see black guys based upon color alone are full of shit. Talk to me for 2 minutes and you will realize I'm a safe, regular guy who just wants to have fun 5. Nice guys don't always finish last. I have lots of friends who are assholes and they wonder why I had a spectacular time with a girl when they had a terrible one with the same girl! In an industry filled with assholes, ladies really appreciate when a nice guy shows up. 6. Vegas is one of the worst places to hobby 7 I will never understand why ladies will pick up the phone every time you call until you arrive then you have to call 4 times before they pick up. 8 This shit is fun!!! 9 Very few ladies know how to keep customer coming back

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I have learned that I will probably never be happy with a regular job, nor will I be reigned in by captain save-a-hoe.

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My experience is limited. I'm sure I'll learn more. But I've learned a few things

A) I'm a lot more comfortable with women at least sort of close to my own age. Hot young girls are great to look at. But under 30 hasn't gone well for me. One of them was a fantastic provider and she tried really hard. Not her fault. I just couldn't enjoy it as much as I wish I could. So far, my best experiences are with women older than me.

II) Affairs are bad, and can ruin your marriage. Escorts can do the opposite. I didn't expect that. And I'm not 100% sure how it works yet. Turns out "free" is a lot more expensive than paying for it, anyway. But man, it is heart breaking how many lonely women there are in the world. Men too, I'm sure. Makes you really appreciate what you have.

3) The one I'm learning now. Shit happens, and sometimes you sit in your car waiting for a call or text that never comes. Sometimes you do that three times in a row. LOL You can get bent out of shape about it, or laugh it off. The difference between a crappy provider and a good one is what they do about it. The difference between a happy guy and an ass hole is what you do about it.

3.1) I've learned that time is more valuable to me than money. And it's not even close. I paid a woman $100 to have coffee. Best value ever. Avoided spending a lot of time (and more money) on an experience that I wouldn't have enjoyed. But we had a nice chat. She still emails me.

Bonus) If you open an E*TRADE account, it doesn't take a ton to generate more than enough to pay for this a few times a year. When you don't feel like you're spending "real money" it's a lot easier to enjoy it. You're welcome.

And I'll agree with what someone else said. It's better with your wife. This is just a fun way to fill in the gaps when it gets slow.

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Through this business I learned that there was a bigger world out there.

That there was more to life than a shitty prairie town and one bedroom house with way too many people living in it. Just because no one else had hope for a future greater than their own one bedroom house with too many people in it, didn't mean that I couldn't have bigger dreams

I learned that I didn't have to settle for an ordinary life.... and it's been a wonderful, terrible, ride. (30 years as of this January! crikey!)

I owe my entire education to my clients, to other providers, and even to the pimps, I met along the way.

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i have learned 3 things:

1. 98% percent of men that i see are all married. they tell me the same story about how their wives just stopped putting out. they also said that they cant go through a divorce, so that's why they come to see me. everytime i hear that it honestly makes me sad (and maybe just a tad jaded when it comes to the whole marriage thing...)

2. cheap men will always stay cheap and i have literally heard every excuse in the book why someone had to cancel on me.

3. even though my first two lessons were kinda negative, i will say throughout the years i have met some really amazing men. men that knew me more than just a working girl; they knew and remembered things about me. i believe you really cant replace a good regular(s), and i have had a few of them, which overall i am very grateful for.

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i have learned 3 things:

1. 98% percent of men that i see are all married. they tell me the same story about how their wives just stopped putting out. they also said that they cant go through a divorce, so that's why they come to see me. everytime i hear that it honestly makes me sad (and maybe just a tad jaded when it comes to the whole marriage thing...)

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Okay, so this might be a little off topic to start, but I'll get back there by the end.

tl;dr ...Dead bedroom pushed me into 'hobby,' and learned it actually is a way to keep "no sex" from damaging the rest of an otherwise very good relationship.

Longer version....When I first started, which wasn't that long ago, I found that the topic of why I was visiting came up frequently during that ice-breaking chat time. The 'dead bedroom syndrome' was and is the reason. But, Kari, I don't think it shouldn't make you sad to hear that.

I don't know if anyone expects that disappearance of the physical side to happen. If you'd told me ten years ago that the intimacy on almost all levels was soon going to go away, I'd have laughed out loud. Ouch.

I have found that being in a long-term, sexless/intimacy-free relationship is very surreal and it generates a lot of resentment and bitterness. There is confusion and a little bit of self-pity and a lot of trying to reverse it. (It has in my case.)

Participating in this "hobby" has done a lot to reduce the negativity rising from not having a physical side to the relationship. So, making the occasional appointment has actually gone a long way toward keeping the relationship's good parts good -- and there are many. So, no I don't want to end things nor do I need an emotional or intellectual outlet. Those parts are fine.

That said, my personality is such that I don't just want to -- for lack of a better term -- go 3G, but nor I am really looking for a GFE. My "kink" is feeling like things are a Friends with Benefits situation. (Granted this happens with mutual adherence to pretty strict boundaries.) So, one thing that I've learned is that there are a few folks who are comfortable with that sort of arrangement or at least pretending they are and that works for me.

Apologies for going on and on about this, but it sort of struck a nerve.

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