BBFS

[juanduh]

On the boards there has been an ASP offering BBFS for and extra cost. Its not something I am into. But I have to assume it is popular because she continues to offer it as a regular menu item. I just think of all of the possible consequences and shy a way. What are yiour thoughts?

[SmileyDawg]

I think this thread may have your answers:

http://www.theotherboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=372314#post372314

[juanduh]

Great thread and poll

[juanduh]

I thought about it. Under what conditions I would do this. If the ASP was getting weekly testing and the johns she saw were also getting weekly testing. Even this system has failed like the california porn industry aids outbreak

[stevie]

Who was. Advertising that?

[pfunk]

Who was. Advertising that?

Go read every ad posted on escortboards, today. You'll find it.

[MAG]

Go read every ad posted on escortboards, today. You'll find it.

The last time I saw her ad, it also said she only plays safe & so don't ask.

Makes me wonder if she just recently started offering the new .... Offering.

[Mister_plow]

Go read every ad posted on escortboards, today. You'll find it.

I read every one and can't find it. Could someone drop me a pm please?

[Lucy Kitten]

The last time I saw her ad, it also said she only plays safe & so don't ask.

Makes me wonder if she just recently started offering the new .... Offering.

It's not the first time, there was another thread about this YL and her choice of advertising not too long ago.

[Guest]

So far 6 guys said they would do it. So far. And that's the ones with balls enough to admit it. There are plenty that are not participating in the poll that would hit it too. As Gina said, it's none of my business, but since you brought it up, I think those motherfuckers are sick and crazy. Who the hell pays to bb a prostitute? Really your health is worth some bare pussy? Or you're already dirty? And as for the girl, well, I just feel sorry for her because something's not right.

[MAG]

So far 6 guys said they would do it. So far. And that's the ones with balls enough to admit it. There are plenty that are not participating in the poll that would hit it too. As Gina said, it's none of my business, but since you brought it up, I think those motherfuckers are sick and crazy. Who the hell pays to bb a prostitute? Really your health is worth some bare pussy? Or you're already dirty? And as for the girl, well, I just feel sorry for her because something's not right.

+1

Frankly, she's the crazier one. Stastistics AND science both say that it's easier for a woman to get infected by a man than vice-versa. I'm speaking of HIV, of course.

It's possible she may requiring a recent test from interested parties, but even that is no guarantee, not even close.

SMH.

[NaughtyNiceGuy]

So motherfucker is better term for a john than hooker is for a prostitute. Glad to see hookers are more politically correct than johns.

[MAG]

I read every one and can't find it. Could someone drop me a pm please?

Search on the word "cover" -- that'll narrow it down, and you should be able to find it.

[N6_in_the_village]

So motherfucker is better term for a john than hooker is for a prostitute. Glad to see hookers are more politically correct than johns.

Is retrovirus a politically correct or incorrect term?

[The Oxymoron]

My question is why the hell do providers guzzle random strangers' jizz for a couple hundred bucks. As far as I'm concerned, that's just as sick and crazy.

Definitely not for me, and I was a provider for 16 years. However, I worked back in the days where protecting oneself was the norm for a provider because the AIDS scare was still fresh in everyone's minds.

But whatever... you go for it girls! It's your life, after all.

I just think it's funny that the providers always have to find someone to look down on, even though they themselves are far from models of safe sex practices. And that includes me, albeit in my personal life more so than in the industry.

[N6_in_the_village]

Depends what kind of viruses your mother has ... and don't worry about what retrovirus means, you don't need to know what it means to catch it.

[nairobi09]

I had one provider offer it. She is somewhat UTR and drop-dead beautiful; an active nude modeling career. It is not advertised. I did wonder why such a beautiful woman would do this.

From what little I know the women offering this service do not advertise and circulate among a small number of clients. This of course, might be a way to somewhat control the risks.

[Denguy40]

On the boards there has been an ASP offering BBFS for and extra cost. Its not something I am into. But I have to assume it is popular because she continues to offer it as a regular menu item. I just think of all of the possible consequences and shy a way. What are yiour thoughts?

My thoughts? My thoughts are, if two people want to engage in that, then whatever. I'm not going to judge them.

[N6_in_the_village]

Nairobi09 wrote (my emphasis)

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From what little I know the women offering this service do not advertise and circulate among a small number of clients. This of course, might be a way to somewhat control the risks.

I wouldn't tell other clients not to take a particular risk. (Why should anyone here listen to my advice - other than the scintillating quality of my writing of course .) But I hope you are realistic about the risks you take, and I question your assumptions about "controlling risks". You don't know how many other clients a provider is "circulating" among, or how many she is doing a particular service with (if she offers that service to you).

If a particular provider only offers BBFS after you have had many sessions with her over a long period of time - I would count that as indirect evidence that she is selective about who she offers this service to. If the offer happens on the first or second date, she is probably not too selective.

[MAG]

Nairobi09 wrote (my emphasis)

I wouldn't tell other clients not to take a particular risk. (Why should anyone here listen to my advice - other than the scintillating quality of my writing of course .) But I hope you are realistic about the risks you take, and I question your assumptions about "controlling risks". You don't know how many other clients a provider is "circulating" among, or how many she is doing a particular service with (if she offers that service to you).

If a particular provider only offers BBFS after you have had many sessions with her over a long period of time - I would count that as indirect evidence that she is selective about who she offers this service to. If the offer happens on the first or second date, she is probably not too selective.

Years ago, my ATF simply decided one night to climb aboard cowgirl, no cover. No upsell - just no cover. I had been seeing her semi-regularly for awhile, so there may be some truth to N6's theory.

Less risky? Maybe. Risk free? He'll no, and now that I'm a little older and a lot wiser, I would stop her in her tracks.

Fortunately nothing bad happened, but there's nothing quite like playing sexual roulette.

[DaHobbyist]

To me if someone is partaking in an act like this, you are playing with your short ass life. My advice if you want to go BB with any provider, us should buy her out of her career. Don't do it with someone that offers it as a service. You will crap out.

[Bit Banger]

Rhetorical questions (for both M&F):

- How many of you "play" in the civilian market?

- How many practice 'safe sex' in that civilian market?

- How many expect their civilian partners to be practicing 'safe sex' most of the time?

- Are the risks really greater with that gal at the end of the bar who leaves with someone different every night?

[DaHobbyist]

Rhetorical questions (for both M&F):

- How many of you "play" in the civilian market?

- How many practice 'safe sex' in that civilian market?

- How many expect their civilian partners to be practicing 'safe sex' most of the time?

- Are the risks really greater with that gal at the end of the bar who leaves with someone different every night?

It's safer being a hobbyist only because "safe sex" is the norm in 2014, unlike the rest of the civilian population. If BB was the norm, the rate of getting something would be far higher than our civilian counterparts because of multiple partners.

Say no to BB!!! Keep this beautiful industry clean.

[EuropeanMonger]

Consenting adults, period. Its amusing that every time this subject comes up, so many people are up in arms about it and act flabbergasted that it happens. Yet we all know that it happens. It's not some dirty little secret. I suppose it's because Denver is in this tiny little bubble and we're somehow ignorant to the fact that it is something guys ask for and some girls provide. We can debate the merits / detriments all we want but it's not like this is going away.

While living in Toronto and London, I frequented both TERB and AdultWork. You'd be surprised how many girls advertised BBFS (and BB Greek). Hell, just do a search for "creampie" on Redbook and you'll find plenty of women providing that in LA, SF and Reno. But there was a simple solution for both the men and the women in the industry. If a guy had visited a girl who did BBFS, there were other girls who would outright refuse to see those men. Obviously a review would of had to have been left but it was pretty effective in weeding out the most egregious offenders. There would also be discussions in forums similar to this and if guys were "sniffing around" for BBFS, it was another way for the women to sort those guys out.

I can honestly say I haven't barebacked anyone that I wasn't in a committed relationship with since 2006 (and I've been tested more than a dozen times since) but I'm not going to get on some moral high horse and pretend that I haven't barebacked someone in my life that was semi-anonymous before that. I have. There was a time when I thought I was immortal and the odds were in my favor. I was a frat boy in college too. Let your imagination run wild there. But becoming a dad totally changed my outlook. Getting older and appreciating the fragility of life also changed my outlook. I'm kinda attached to my penis and I'd prefer he doesn't get a nasty cold or fall off or what not. I personally won't see a woman who advertises BBFS as a regular activity (or even YMMV) but I'm not going to delude myself into thinking that it doesn't happen UTR or with "regular" engagements. All I can do is protect myself and if I fail to do that then the consequences are 100% on me. I also won't get all up in arms and go al-queda if I see a girl (or guy) are participating in BBFS. I just make a mental note and move on. Again, consenting adults and what not.

People are going to bareback though. I mean seriously, get over it. All you can do is protect yourself and if you are a provider and know a guy participates or seeks it, decline his business. If you're a guy and that's something you're adverse to, just don't see that woman in particular. But if we honestly think that shaming someone is going to end the practice, you're seriously kidding yourself. Like I said, it's not my cup of tea. I have too much to lose personally if I catch a gift that keeps on giving so it's not something I'll do. But I'm not going to pretend that it doesn't happen nor am I going to go on a faux-crusade with my self-righteous indignation that someone, somewhere is fucking without a condom.

[worksmartnothard]

My question is why the hell do providers guzzle random strangers' jizz for a couple hundred bucks. As far as I'm concerned, that's just as sick and crazy.

This does puzzle me and certainly zero judgement. Just something I will never do.

[2small]

Consenting adults, period. Its amusing that every time this subject comes up, so many people are up in arms about it and act flabbergasted that it happens. Yet we all know that it happens. It's not some dirty little secret. I suppose it's because Denver is in this tiny little bubble and we're somehow ignorant to the fact that it is something guys ask for and some girls provide. We can debate the merits / detriments all we want but it's not like this is going away.

While living in Toronto and London, I frequented both TERB and AdultWork. You'd be surprised how many girls advertised BBFS (and BB Greek). Hell, just do a search for "creampie" on Redbook and you'll find plenty of women providing that in LA, SF and Reno. But there was a simple solution for both the men and the women in the industry. If a guy had visited a girl who did BBFS, there were other girls who would outright refuse to see those men. Obviously a review would of had to have been left but it was pretty effective in weeding out the most egregious offenders. There would also be discussions in forums similar to this and if guys were "sniffing around" for BBFS, it was another way for the women to sort those guys out.

I can honestly say I haven't barebacked anyone that I wasn't in a committed relationship with since 2006 (and I've been tested more than a dozen times since) but I'm not going to get on some moral high horse and pretend that I haven't barebacked someone in my life that was semi-anonymous before that. I have. There was a time when I thought I was immortal and the odds were in my favor. I was a frat boy in college too. Let your imagination run wild there. But becoming a dad totally changed my outlook. Getting older and appreciating the fragility of life also changed my outlook. I'm kinda attached to my penis and I'd prefer he doesn't get a nasty cold or fall off or what not. I personally won't see a woman who advertises BBFS as a regular activity (or even YMMV) but I'm not going to delude myself into thinking that it doesn't happen UTR or with "regular" engagements. All I can do is protect myself and if I fail to do that then the consequences are 100% on me. I also won't get all up in arms and go al-queda if I see a girl (or guy) are participating in BBFS. I just make a mental note and move on. Again, consenting adults and what not.

People are going to bareback though. I mean seriously, get over it. All you can do is protect yourself and if you are a provider and know a guy participates or seeks it, decline his business. If you're a guy and that's something you're adverse to, just don't see that woman in particular. But if we honestly think that shaming someone is going to end the practice, you're seriously kidding yourself. Like I said, it's not my cup of tea. I have too much to lose personally if I catch a gift that keeps on giving so it's not something I'll do. But I'm not going to pretend that it doesn't happen nor am I going to go on a faux-crusade with my self-righteous indignation that someone, somewhere is fucking without a condom.

Great post aurora mike, my sentiments exactly. I was in the navy and like you had access to many ladies all bb. but that was a different time and place.

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[mrvegas63]

Its amusing that every time this subject comes up, so many people are up in arms about it and act flabbergasted that it happens.

Yeah. This is kinda like, but not, last week's Patton Oswalt Twitter fake joke fake deleted bait-o-thon/social experiment. The ones that get it, the ones that get indignant and must loudly show their indignation. And then the indignation for towards the ones that weren't indignant (really the indignant being indignant for taking the bait).

For those that did not get wind of above, couple of the tweets:

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/464085515528970241

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/464086446534455296

[engineer]

Many years ago my utr ATF jumped on CG while BB. I immediately asked her to get off and put a cover on. She told me she's "clean" and not seeing anyone and thought I'd like it.

I explained that its for BOTH our safety.

Honestly, it takes me longer when covered so...i wrap up to enjoy the extended ride as much as safety.

[Bit Banger]

Not that long ago (less than 40 years) BB everything was the norm.

I haven't been on the civilian scene in 20-some years but BB was still common then.

Now the mere mention of BB activities freaks folks.

What a difference a day makes?

[N6_in_the_village]

Not that long ago (less than 40 years) BB everything was the norm.

I haven't been on the civilian scene in 20-some years but BB was still common then.

Now the mere mention of BB activities freaks folks.

What a difference a day makes?

I've read that in the 19th century, some men believed that syphilis could be cured by having sex with a young virgin (because whatever was causing it would prefer her and leave you for her). nice :eek: (The old days weren't necessarily the good old days.)