Posted May 2, 2014 I feel your pain. If I had been arrested in my incident, my life would have been horribly impacted. I was in a more compromising position than you. I was very lucky that LE did not arrest me even though I only said that I wanted a massage. The ramifications of an arrest are sobering. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 2, 2014 holy shit, this is a scary story, I agree there is another side of LE that you don't want to know about, I have seen it first hand , thank god I was not the one in trouble. There are so many murders and other shit that happens in denver everyday, cops should be concentrating on the important stuff. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 2, 2014 I have nothing to add........it turns out that paying for time & companionship, wasn't against the law....and anything else that happens was between 2 consenting adults . 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 2, 2014 never been arrested yet but I try to stay with well reviewed women who you know are not le. if I ever got busted my life would end as I know it now. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 2, 2014 So LE should only work on criminal activities that you deem important? What about someone breaking into your car, not important to me? If it is against two law the should act. If you don't like the law work to get it changed. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 2, 2014 Beware I think I all most got catch today. http://denver.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/deliciously-delightful-goddess-21/14907998 She was very pushy and asking a lot of questions and what are reviews and you get them, I said internet. lots of red flags went up when I got there. When she ask why I am not answering her questions I said they sound like intrampment then I was asked to get dressed and leave and on my way out that everything was being video and recorded and I might get a call I fell I dodge a bullet. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 Thx for responding those that did. Those little junior detective episodes were over before I posted here. It was a waste of time and ended up being an awful thing to do to someone. As a sort of recompense, I did call one of the 'suspicious' ladies back, made a real appointment, and tipped her double the going rate. As for creeping the girls out, I never got close enough to the room to make them aware of my presence. I basically just scoped out the hotel. For those who say you haven't been caught in all your wonderful years in the hobby, there are still those who have. It's real, it happens, and even though it may be uncommon, it only takes once to destroy your life as you know it. So I want to know more. You were all correct to criticize me though. It was wrong, it was stupid, and it's over. I'm sorry that happened Mtnman...... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 It appears this thread took a turn for the worst instead of a fun informative thread. can we close it so we no longer bash the amature detective I'd rather the bashing go on if people just keep sharing. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 Beware I think I all most got catch today. Or not. If you had searched for the phone number, would have turned up the following bad review: http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=5871 Which references another bad review: http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=5424 Sounds like run of the mill scammers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 So LE should only work on criminal activities that you deem important? What about someone breaking into your car, not important to me? If it is against two law the should act. If you don't like the law work to get it changed. This is the most asinine post I've seen in the last month. You equate prostitution with breaking into a car?? Prostitution IS a victimless crime. And don't go crying "human trafficking" - if LE wants to do away with trafficking, they should go after the traffickers, not the victims of trafficking and certainly not the guys who are hiring prostitutes, most of which aren't trafficked to begin with. Why do you think prostitution is legal in many places (including some places right here in the states). Because the simple act of prostitution hurts no-one. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 Speeding is a victimless crime as are most traffic infractions yet the police spend a large portion of their budget on it that they could spend on "real" crimes. If it is against the law then they should enforce it, they shouldn't be made to decide what should be enforced or not. If you feel the law doesn't make sense then work to change it. That is what other countries have done where prostitution is legal. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 This is the most asinine post I've seen in the last month. You equate prostitution with breaking into a car?? Prostitution IS a victimless crime. ... Speeding is a victimless crime ... If it is against the law then they {police} should enforce it, they shouldn't be made to decide what should be enforced or not. If you feel the law doesn't make sense then work to change it. That is what other countries have done where prostitution is legal. I have to agree with NNG on this one. It is NOT the job of police, or even the court system, to decide which laws to enforce. This is one of the travesties of our current justice system - the selective enforcement of criminal law (immigration, {forbidden topic}, etc.). this path leads to cronyism and preferential treatment, not equality under the law. But this strays into politics; i.e. not germane to this discussion board. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 Or not. If you had searched for the phone number, would have turned up the following bad review: http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=5871 Which references another bad review: http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=5424 Sounds like run of the mill scammers. It sounds like he just has a nice mix of paranoia, the inability to search a girl and quite possibly a communication problem. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 She was very pushy and asking a lot of questions and what are reviews and you get them, I said internet. lots of red flags went up when I got there. When she ask why I am not answering her questions I said they sound like intrampment then I was asked to get dressed and leave and on my way out that everything was being video and recorded and I might get a call I fell I dodge a bullet. The reality is that if you walk into a sting, you are not going to dodge the bullet, even if you figure it all out when you arrive and say nothing. They don't allow people to "figure it out" and leave, to go warn others. Their job is to arrest everyone and let the courts figure out who is guilty or innocent. So if you are able to change your mind and leave the situation, you can be sure it's not a sting. However, there might be another reason your spidey senses were tingling, so it's probably still a good idea to hoof it out of there. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 If it is against the law then they should enforce it, they shouldn't be made to decide what should be enforced or not. If you feel the law doesn't make sense then work to change it. That is what other countries have done where prostitution is legal. I absolutely, 100% agree. The police are simply doing their jobs, which is what they should be doing. It's not personal, and if you aren't happy with the laws there are ways to lobby for changes. That exact thing was done here (in Canada), with the bawdy house and living off of the availslaws, in the past couple of years. It's pretty amazing what someone with a little gumption and time can do to effect positive change. Google it if you're interested. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 The reality is that if you walk into a sting, you are not going to dodge the bullet, even if you figure it all out when you arrive and say nothing. They don't allow people to "figure it out" and leave, to go warn others. Their job is to arrest everyone and let the courts figure out who is guilty or innocent. So if you are able to change your mind and leave the situation, you can be sure it's not a sting. However, there might be another reason your spidey senses were tingling, so it's probably still a good idea to hoof it out of there. I did walk out of a sting in another city a number of years ago. I only said that I just wanted a massage. I was either lucky or caught a huge break from LE even though I never mentioned an illegal services. They could have arrested me and let me sort it out. I am certain that I was in a sting. As I was leaving, a man came to the door with a holstered gun. Read me post to see the details. At least 95 possibly 99 out of 100 who enter the sting, get arrested. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 3, 2014 I absolutely, 100% agree. The police are simply doing their jobs, which is what they should be doing. It's not personal, and if you aren't happy with the laws there are ways to lobby for changes. That exact thing was done here (in Canada), with the bawdy house and living off of the availslaws, in the past couple of years. It's pretty amazing what someone with a little gumption and time can do to effect positive change. Google it if you're interested. Anyone naive enough to believe that police officers are "simply doing their jobs" -- I have some land to sell you. Cops exercise discretion every fucking day. They decide whether to give a ticket or a warning, for example. If you cross the street anywhere other than a crosswalk, they might ignore you, or they might give you a jaywalking ticket. When does a cop give you a "following too closely" citation? Only when you hit the car in front of you. If some guy gets arrested just for being in a massage parlor parking lot (yes, it has happened) don't tell him to lobby for a change in the laws. It's the cop who went too far. I would agree that the law itself should be changed by lobbying our lawmakers, but don't suggest that cops are always "just doing their jobs". That's utter bullshit. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 4, 2014 Anyone naive enough to believe that police officers are "simply doing their jobs" -- I have some land to sell you. Cops exercise discretion every fucking day. They decide whether to give a ticket or a warning, for example. If you cross the street anywhere other than a crosswalk, they might ignore you, or they might give you a jaywalking ticket. When does a cop give you a "following too closely" citation? Only when you hit the car in front of you. If some guy gets arrested just for being in a massage parlor parking lot (yes, it has happened) don't tell him to lobby for a change in the laws. It's the cop who went too far. I would agree that the law itself should be changed by lobbying our lawmakers, but don't suggest that cops are always "just doing their jobs". That's utter bullshit. All too frequently their job is to be an entitled, power-tripping asshole. In that case, they are just "doing their job." 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 4, 2014 That's not there job, it's what the public and legal system lets them get away with. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 4, 2014 The reality is that if you walk into a sting, you are not going to dodge the bullet, even if you figure it all out when you arrive and say nothing. They don't allow people to "figure it out" and leave, to go warn others. Their job is to arrest everyone and let the courts figure out who is guilty or innocent. So if you are able to change your mind and leave the situation, you can be sure it's not a sting. However, there might be another reason your spidey senses were tingling, so it's probably still a good idea to hoof it out of there. +1 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 4, 2014 +1 Yep, exactly so! There are no "magic words" you can say, or no "magic" you can gain by saying nothing. If you are there, you will be busted. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 4, 2014 There are no "magic words" you can say, or no "magic" you can gain by saying nothing. If you are there, you will be busted. Actually, if you don't say anything you will still be arrested... however, the case will most likely be dropped before your court date. Which is pretty much the best you can hope for in that situation. And yes, LE can use their discretion when it comes to speeding tickets... but the probably aren't supposed to do that, I would assume they are supposed to do it "by the book". However, because they are alone are able to make that call without too much trouble. When you are talking about an undercover operation, they do not have the ability to make individual decisions. They are working as a unit, and the unit would do things "by the book". Which means everyone who walks into the situation is getting arrested, and the courts will figure out who is guilty or innocent. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 18, 2014 I have fortunately never been busted while hobbying, however I have dealt with the police in other situations where their lies ended up costing me big time. A lot of money and time ended up wasted for me. They will most definitely do whatever they feel like doing in order to arrest you. Now I'm sure that not all LE are dishonest, but from various stories I have heard, including mtnman's, sorry about that one that is a total crock what they did, and my own personal experiences I feel they are mostly dishonest. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
