Age aint nothin' but a number... or is it?

[Goggles Paesano]

Why is this so important to you, planning to marry a hooker?

Why do you care? Do you wanna come to the wedding reception?

Judging by many of the responses on this thread, I'd say that I'm not the only one who finds it "important".

Hookers lie johns lie so what?

Sure, everbody lies. So let's all just be content with it and say/do absolutely nothing about it at all... ever.

Your statement is rather glib. So you're saying that since both hookers and johns lie, that somehow makes everything okay and we should all just accept it and prance along on our merry way? One hand washes the other, right?

Well... that will certainly eliminate all the needless threads about fake ads, fake pics, fake names, etc. from now on.

[NaughtyNiceGuy]

You know going in that everyone in this community lies. As I said the most serious lies in this community are from johns that don't honestly review age and pictures. What do you propose. A government oversight committee to verify age and pictures of hookers? Johns reviews are the closest you can get and they lie more than the hookers.

[Bit Banger]

Ah, the plague of technology! We've all become soft, expecting a perfect world.

This is the lore from days of yore: (Yes, I walked 6mi to school in 6' of snow uphill both ways.)

- If you wanted to verify a hooker's looks, you checked her out through the car window before you pulled over to pick her up off the stroll.

- If you wanted something more discreet, you trolled the ads in altermative newspapers (Oyster, Westword, Reader, Barb, etc.). These ads often didn't provide much more than "For a good time call ___ at ###." You could ask questions when you called, but good luck with getting straight answers, even to the "How much?" question.

- If you wanted a little more info, but not more accurate, you could call an agency listed in the Yellow Pages. The guy on the other end of the line gave you a selection based on your stated preferences. This selection might be close to your request. BTW: Those newspaper ads often led to agencies.

So suck it up guys and face the truth!

Is it age or looks you're asking about? Can you really tell a 10yr difference between reports & records? I've seen 30yo who were so "rode hard & put up wet" that they looked 50. I've also seen 50yo who were blessed with good genes & good hygiene looking 30s.

As for age in ads - yes, there are folks who fudge the numbers.

Many shave a few years off, I know of one who used to tack a few on, many don't bother to tell, and a few wear their years as badges of honor.

[Goggles Paesano]

You know going in that everyone in this community lies. As I said the most serious lies in this community are from johns that don't honestly review age and pictures. What do you propose. A government oversight committee to verify age and pictures of hookers? Johns reviews are the closest you can get and they lie more than the hookers.

Yes, I think a government oversight committee is a fantastic idea! In fact, I'm going to write my congressman about it first thing tomorrow morning! I can't believe I didn't think of that myself. Now yer using the ol' noodle... bravo.

Yes, I am well aware that everyone lies. I've already stated in a previous post on this thread that I don't trust hookers farther than I can throw them. And yes, I'm sure that johns do lie as well. However, I don't agree that they lie more than hookers do. Why would a john lie more than a hooker? I can see why hookers lie (although I don't condone it)... they stand to gain from their lies. But johns (for the most part) don't benefit from lying... unless they happen to be in cahoots with a hooker (which I also touched upon in another post on another thread). Otherwise, why would they lie? I agree that the accuracy of reviews are spotty at best (yet ANOTHER statement I've made in another post) but I think the inaccuracies and falsehoods of reviews are attributed more to the johns seeing hookers through "rose colored glasses" as opposed to outright deliberate lying.

If you have such a cynical view of the "system" then why are you even on here at all? From your point of view, 99.99999% of everything discussed in any of these threads (from hookers and johns alike) is a total lie. The reviews are a lie. The hookers are lying. the johns are lying. So why even come here at all? And why bother posting to any of the threads for that matter... anything you say is a lie too, since you're a john, right?

K... I'm getting off this merry-go-round. I'm gettin' dizzy... and I just ate a big breakfast.

[pitbull]

And yet, through it all, I find mostly startling honesty on this board. Why would I lie, for instance, about the near total lack of sex in my marriage? I sure wish it were a lie. I think many people come onto this board because it is the ONLY PLACE where they can finally tell the truth.

As for the OP's original question, I agree that hookers should stay in the ballpark of their age by at least five years (up or down). And by the way, many hookers assume that a YOUNGER age is better. Well, many of us like them OLDER.

[Guest Likenthrope]

And yet, through it all, I find mostly startling honesty on this board. Why would I lie, for instance, about the near total lack of sex in my marriage? I sure wish it were a lie. I think many people come onto this board because it is the ONLY PLACE where they can finally tell the truth.

This is the only place I honestly discuss this part of my life with anyone, unless it's with the providers I see. I tend to tell little white lies with providers though, mostly regarding the details of my personal life, in order to mislead them about who I really am. This keeps a comfortable amount of distance between us. I actually like to vary the stories I tell, playing a slightly different role with each one, it adds to the fun. I'm much more honest here.

[boink36]

Ah, the plague of technology! We've all become soft, expecting a perfect world.

This is the lore from days of yore: (Yes, I walked 6mi to school in 6' of snow uphill both ways.)

- If you wanted to verify a hooker's looks, you checked her out through the car window before you pulled over to pick her up off the stroll.

- If you wanted something more discreet, you trolled the ads in altermative newspapers (Oyster, Westword, Reader, Barb, etc.). These ads often didn't provide much more than "For a good time call ___ at ###." You could ask questions when you called, but good luck with getting straight answers, even to the "How much?" question.

- If you wanted a little more info, but not more accurate, you could call an agency listed in the Yellow Pages. The guy on the other end of the line gave you a selection based on your stated preferences. This selection might be close to your request. BTW: Those newspaper ads often led to agencies.

So suck it up guys and face the truth!

Is it age or looks you're asking about? Can you really tell a 10yr difference between reports & records? I've seen 30yo who were so "rode hard & put up wet" that they looked 50. I've also seen 50yo who were blessed with good genes & good hygiene looking 30s.

As for age in ads - yes, there are folks who fudge the numbers.

Many shave a few years off, I know of one who used to tack a few on, many don't bother to tell, and a few wear their years as badges of honor.

Age is just like weight, it's just a number.

26 is the same as 46 and 140lbs is the same as 250lbs.

[Bit Banger]

Try 4'10" at 140# vs. 6'5" at 250#

One will look short&fat, the other tall& built.

[boink36]

Try 4'10" at 140# vs. 6'5" at 250#

One will look short&fat, the other tall& built.

I was thinking 4'10" at 140 or 250.

[Bit Banger]

I know you were. Just wanted to point out that just one number did not provide an adequate description.

I've seen stodgy 20yo gals who a waste of money, and energetic 50yo gals who rocked my world. Again, using just one number does not provide an adequate description.

Edited April 20, 2014 by Bit Banger
Added thought related to age

[Lucy Kitten]

With all of the discussion on here as of late regarding misrepresentation/bait & switch (i.e.fake/stolen photos, stolen/copied names, etc.) I'm just curious about everybody's thoughts when a provider lies about her age...

I recently talked to a provider who is considerably older than she advertises. And I'm not talking about 2 or 3 years... I mean SEVERAL years older (15 years!). Now, to her credit, she looks extremely good for her age (at least according to her pictures. I haven't actually met her in person). But should that make a difference? Isn't a lie still a lie?

And then I was reminded of a provider I saw a few months ago... her pictures are real, but she doesn't show her face. Her ads say she is a specific age. But when I met her in person, I could tell right away that she was much older than what she advertised. After our session, we were hanging out and chatting for a bit, during which time she actually voluteered her real age (I didn't even ask). She revealed that she was a lot older than she advertised... 13 years older!

Now, I can understand a provider... for vanity reasons... lowballing her age 2 or 3 years. But when you start lying about your age by more than a decade... I'm thinking that's crossing a line.

The funny thing about the aforementioned provider I saw, she's actually getting younger... at least according to her ads. I noticed she has shaved another 2 years off her age since last year. Something that I find very surprising is that she is well reviewed on here and 99.9% of her reviews are 'Fantastic'. Every reviewer has listed her age as being the age she advertises. I'm wondering if maybe she asked them not to reveal her real age in their reviews or if they really do think she is the age she advertises (which I would find hard to believe...it's very easy to tell she's much older).

A question for the ladies... do you REALLY think we (the "hobbyists") are that dumb/gullible that we can't tell you're actually older than you say you are...or...you think we just won't care when we find out how old you really are?

A question for the guys... does a provider's age really matter to you? Do you view misrepresentation of age in the same light as misrepresentation of photos and activities offered?

A little late jumping in this conversation but certainly not for a lack of anything to say!

You can count me as part of that .001% that doesn't lie about their age. I was pretty clueless when I started in this biz and it never would have occurred to me to lie about my age (which when I started was 28). I also have thin skin when it comes to rejection and saw nothing to gain about lying to gents about my age or appearance.

I asked a similar question a while back, I asked if I should lie about my age since everyone is going to tack on 5 years anyways. The answers if I recall correctly were sort of mixed bag. It would seem that to a lot of guys that age "ain't nothing but a number" and lying about it is perfectly acceptable but only in this circumstance unless the difference in real vs advertised age is too much. If you are 40 and can pass for early 30s it's ok to lie about it but you can't be 50 and say your 37.

I personally don't see much wrong with fibbing about age, it's not an escort thing it's a human thing. Women and men both fib about their age, when we're younger we want to be older and as we get older we always want to deny our age. The problem as it relates to the business is consistency in information and having wavering standards to which ladies are held.

We all have to be on the same page it's acceptable or it isn't. I personally think it's best to encourage the truth. It makes it easier on everyone.

[Bigguy]

I have never understood lying about your age more than a year or two. Maybe 29 instead of 30, but if you tell me you are 30 instead of 40 I am going to think you must had a really hard life. If instead you tell the truth I will probably think you look good for your age. Of course at my age pretty much all providers look young to me.

[Barbi Dahl]

Now Googles darling you cant be serious with that comment...Despite the fact you do not realize it, there have been some 'johns' who openly lie for a variety to reasons including they like another provider and are intentionally trying to help their friend stay ahead of the curve, or he likes the provider and does not wish to share her with anyone else, or even possibly just the opposite and doesnt like the lady at all and sets out to try to single handledly destroy her reputation and business with his untruthful efforts...So, as you can see there are just as many reason a gentleman would like, as there is for the lady to do it....Just saying....

Have a great day and a beautiful evening...

B........

[gr8owl]

In my mind, at least 5 years and 10 lbs is to be expected 99% of the time, and I think that's acceptable. 10 years and 20 lbs is probably more common though, which is neither here nor there for me, since I'm not a client.

If I were a client, I'd probably just tack on 10 years and 20 lbs as being the worst case scenario I would stick with and cross my fingers. Anything more than that would be unacceptable (to me) though.

Expected - sad, but probably true. Acceptable - no, not hardly. But as long as the pics are recent and representative, who gives a shit. Speaking of which, I see some pics that were in use when I discovered this and related sites over five years ago and they are STILL being posted this month. I'm sure she (they) hasn't changed a bit in that time!!

[Goggles Paesano]

Now Googles darling you cant be serious with that comment...Despite the fact you do not realize it, there have been some 'johns' who openly lie for a variety to reasons including they like another provider and are intentionally trying to help their friend stay ahead of the curve, or he likes the provider and does not wish to share her with anyone else, or even possibly just the opposite and doesnt like the lady at all and sets out to try to single handledly destroy her reputation and business with his untruthful efforts...So, as you can see there are just as many reason a gentleman would like, as there is for the lady to do it....Just saying....

Have a great day and a beautiful evening...

B........

Now Barbi, snookums... I never said that "johns" don't lie. In fact, I think I said that they do... just not as much as hookers. A statement which I still stand by. Hookers still stand way much more to gain (or lose) and therefore lie up the wazoo (and yes, I was/am serious with that comment).

Lying about a hooker, giving her a bad review just because he "likes her and does not wish to share her with anybody else" is funny to me. One cannot deny how delightfully ironic it is. That's like a business executive firing his secretary just so he can date her. I'm sure it does happen, I'm just sayin' it's "amusing" (for lack of a better word) in its irony.

The deliberately malicious reviews in which he "sets out to try to single handedly destroy her reputation and business with his untruthful efforts." more often than not become revealed for what they really are. I just wish that was also the case for the reviews in which he puts an overwhelmingly positive spin on a hooker's repuation/business with his lies. Those are the ones that need to be revealed.

Have a splendid sleep and a harmonious morning.

[Happymon]

In my mind, at least 5 years and 10 lbs is to be expected 99% of the time, and I think that's acceptable. 10 years and 20 lbs is probably more common though

I recently saw a gal in another state who said, with a logic that is in some ways enviable, that because 10 years was the expectation 5 was honest.

[Goggles Paesano]

I recently saw a gal in another state who said, with a logic that is in some ways enviable, that because 10 years was the expectation 5 was honest.

LOL!

Which only reinforces what I said earlier... a lie is a lie is a lie... PERIOD!

If a provider has to lie THAT much (or at all) to gain or keep clientele, then something is wrong.

If she has to lie about her age, then maybe she's too old to be in this business and needs to consider "hanging it up". Unless, of course, she openly embraces her age and chooses to cater to men who specifically like older women.

If she has to lie about her body type and or use fake/doctored photos, then she needs to either get her butt to a gym, find another line of work or embrace the fact that she is "curvy", "voluptuous", "big boned", "thick", or whatever and focus on the men that prefer that body type.

What would happen to any legitimate professional or business that lied about the goods/services they provide? Why should this "business" be any different?

Everybody lies... there's no denying it and it's never going to change. But if you're gonna lie, then you better be darn convincing or else you deserve to get called out for it.

[2small]

I'm going to throw my 2cents worth in here. If a provider lies about her age in my book its ok if she looks close to the age she says she is. If she says she's 39 but is obviously 68 then that's too much. My self personally I like older women. Just go listen to the song "older women make good lovers" by Ronnie McDowell. I personally know a backpage gal who has been 39 for 8 yrs. she says she does it so the young guys still call her. she doesn't look 39, to me its no big deal but to some guys it would be.

my opinion is if you can pass for the age you say you are go for it, if you cant pass tell the truth.

long live mature providers.

[Guest century2ride]

Interesting posts, comments, and discussions! I gotta say if you are close - what the hell - who really cares? Even the reviews are barely legal to whatever - so the ranges are obcure anyway! Now I have seen people that the pictures were like 20 years off the mark - still had fun but expectation was low! That can be a debbie downer? (is that the right term?)

I can't complain since while I work at it - I would like to feel better and look better for the lady that i am going to see! We talk about a ladies age and then how many guys miss the mark on this as well?

And for the guys - whatever she says - what do you post on reviews? I miss the mark on this one off - but still a great time!

Anyway - compared to the universe, age of the earth, age of our ancestors - I think I am looking pretty good!

How about you?

[dreamer]

who really cares?

I do. If she doesn't want to give her exact age then don't give a precise figure. Advertise as being in her 20s if she's in her 20s, 30s if in her 30s, etc. Or early, mid, late twenties if those apply. If she says 28 then I expect her to be 28, not 27, not 29, and sure as hell not 33. It's about trust and respect and truth in advertising. If truth in advertising isn't important neither is truth in screening info.

[Bit Banger]

I am in agreement with the concept of a general range for age.

[ItatIsawAPuddyTat]

Yep, who the heck cares??? Some of these guys are wanting this to be like a "Walmart" experience" Where everything is described in detail, and everything is guaranteed to be exactly as described.....WAKE UP!!! This is a industry totally different than ANY other, this business is very PERSONAL, and every experience will be totally unlike any other. You are looking for a uniform, business-like experience, when it is totally impossible! If you want guarantees, go home and be quiet!!!

[bonabo]

The real age isn't that important to me because I've seen women in their 40s and look 25 but when she doesn't look like the pic that's a problem. I'm an older guy who believes in giving respect and kindness will go a long way towards reaching your goal.

[wilsel]

A couple years is okay. In my case too many could be a deal breaker. I'm in my mid 30's, and like to see providers within a few years of my age. As much as I like an early 20's body my experience is it's just too akward. Nothing in common conversation wise, and they are usually immature. So if a lady is 29, but posing as a 22 yr old I wouldn't even contact them unless its obvious.

[Bit Banger]

... like to see providers within a few years of my age. As much as I like an early 20's body my experience is it's just too akward. Nothing in common conversation wise, and they are usually immature. ...

^^ this ^^ (emphasis added)

I'm in my 60s so I reach down into the mid-30s for companionship. That improves the maturity quotient. I recently enjoyed a stellar encounter (out of state) with a provider who may have even been older than I.

[csm007]

In April, a provider told me she was 20, but turns out to be 33. That's B & S.

[Outoftowner]

I far prefer more mature women. I won't call on anyone advertising to be in their 20s. My personal preference is for late thirties and up. If they're fun to be with, and reasonably fit, it's a go!

[MAG]

I far prefer more mature women. I won't call on anyone advertising to be in their 20s. My personal preference is for late thirties and up. If they're fun to be with, and reasonably fit, it's a go!

Agreed. 20's is a non starter. Too many of them have that "millennial entitlement" attitude.

Soccer moms in their 40's - that's where it's at!

[EuropeanMonger]

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[Gentlejeff1]

I'm glad someone brought this up and I think it is high time for the federal government to start enforcing the truth in advertising laws! Let's lobby Obama for the change he promised (he did promise that he'd clean up the escort age issue didn't he? that's why I voted for him.) Henceforth all escorts must submit Their ads along with proof to support their age. Beyond that they should be held accountable for their claims of "real photos," guaranteed satisfaction, drug free, etc.

And while their cracking down they should force Fling, Black book and all of those sites to prove that those thousands of local woman who are dying to have sex for free with me right now even exist.