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Payment - Before or After   71 members have voted

  1. 1. Payment - Before or After

    • Before services provided
      58
    • After services provided
      8
    • 1/2 before and the balance after
      3
    • depends on what they look like
      3

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I think av8r agrees with so why so hostile?

Who are you talking to? Use the quote feature to indicate it next time. Makes things easier.

Then again, stay on topic please.

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Oh so you're asking Luce kytten. Yeah she kind of went off. Tell me how I was off topic - I'm curious how you see it that way. Do it in pm though so we don't derail this thread as you've kind of accomplished already.

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I pay before. As previously stated I try to do things up front to make sure session starts as free from any distractions or tension as possible. I want the best session possible and paying up front helps for that to happen in my opinion.

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PAY FIRST!! That's it!! No more talking,

Remember :

We have the P#¥¥Y, we make the rules

Just sayin'

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Interesting question. Most of the time, I see P411 ladies, and they generally specify that the donation be placed in a specific location and I usually comply before the session. I may add a couple of bills afterwards, if the service warrants it. No problems so far.

I have noticed some agency ladies ask for the donation as I come thru the door, take it to another room, presumably to count it, and call it in. A little disconcerting but again, no problems so far.

As a matter of policy, I stay away from BP or CL as I suspect the rate of scams there is a lot higher.

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Providers are getting cheated even when they are paid in advance (fake money or less than the right amount).

For providers who lack common sense and allow paid later , you would better off designating your business as non profit .

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PAY FIRST!! That's it!! No more talking,

Remember :

We have the P#¥¥Y, we make the rules

Just sayin'

That kind of attitude is displayed frequently on this board, and always causes me to cross a name off my list.

Who has the pussy has nothing to do with common sense. Paying ahead of time is not about who makes the rules, it's about common courtesy.

I could just as easily say "we have the Benji's, we make the rules" couldn't I? But I don't because it would be childish. :cool:

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I think av8r agrees with so why so hostile?

I wasn't hostile over av8r's answer but with Pitbulls comment about how he liked that Av8r was here to remind all the guys that they PAY us.

The question wasn't directed at the women it was directed at the men. It wasn't when do you ladies prefer payment but when do you guys like to pay. There really is only one answer to that question and that is when she asks you. If you have a preference that's great but as a provider we don't have to oblige. If your preference is to pay after a session say that while booking not when you show up.

The opinion of the provider seems to matter less and less every day. There are fewer ladies that post and when they do they are often kind of cranky. Instead of the tiniest bit of empathy we get called hostile. I would like to reply more positively but there is rarely something positive to respond to.

Choosing when you pay is no different than negotiating, it's a power move. An attempt to gain the upper hand, the option to put your own value on the service provided. What's going to stop the guy from getting off and then telling a provider that he didn't think she was worth the price and paying whatever he wanted after a session? The only reason I can imagine that a gent would want to pay after is so he can gauge the session and then pay what he deems reasonable. If a gent was planning on paying the ladies requested fee for the agreed upon amount of time does it make a difference if you pay first???

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/porn-star-talks-pirating-pornography?src=soc_fcbks

So this link is about porn and not escorting but I think the idea is the same, the easier this gets for you guys the less you think of us as providers and sentient women.

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That kind of attitude is displayed frequently on this board, and always causes me to cross a name off my list.

Who has the pussy has nothing to do with common sense. Paying ahead of time is not about who makes the rules, it's about common courtesy.

I could just as easily say "we have the Benji's, we make the rules" couldn't I? But I don't because it would be childish. :cool:

Yep. Ladies fail to realize that their demeanor on the boards has an effect on their business - positive or negative.

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Ok for some reason it's timing out and won't let me quote you av8r. The reason "He who has the Benjis makes the rules" doesn't fly is because it is not actually true. With a few rare exceptions (like Denver since it is such a saturated market) those supplying the product do make the rules. If you want what they provide then you should be willing to follow whatever rules they have. I agree that paying ahead is a common courtesy and I also agree that "my pussy my rules" is sort of a silly argument in this fight. All I am saying is that generally it would seem that whomever or whatever is providing a service makes the rules.

Certainly money talks and has its own special powers of persuasion. No doubting that but having the cash doesn't always mean you can make the rules. Childish or not it's just not true.

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Yep. Ladies fail to realize that their demeanor on the boards has an effect on their business - positive or negative.

that slices both ways.

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Yep. Ladies fail to realize that their demeanor on the boards has an effect on their business - positive or negative.

That cuts both ways - guys fail to realize that their demeanor on the boards has an effect on their access to pussy - positive or negative.

Granted, the supply in the Denver market is significant and we can hide behind our pseudonyms easier than the gals, but reputations do count when the gals are deciding whether to accept our appointment requests, or not.

Just sayin`

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That cuts both ways - guys fail to realize that their demeanor on the boards has an effect on their access to pussy - positive or negative.

I don't believe that at all.

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That cuts both ways - guys fail to realize that their demeanor on the boards has an effect on their access to pussy - positive or negative.

Granted, the supply in the Denver market is significant and we can hide behind our pseudonyms easier than the gals, but reputations do count when the gals are deciding whether to accept our appointment requests, or not.

Just sayin`

Lol. Lets keep the posts real, not for comedic purposes.

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because you pay does not give you the upper hand

There is a group of guys on tob who "think" they make the rules. Probably about 10 of 'em total. And then there is the rest of the hobby world who don't post here that know how things really work. ;)

No pre-pay, no play.:(

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Any client who has a problem with paying before playtime may I suggest you buy a blowup doll I understand they are very agreeable or try blowing your own water pipe. Problems solved.

Lilithia

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Any client who has a problem with paying before playtime may I suggest you buy a blowup doll I understand they are very agreeable or try blowing your own water pipe. Problems solved.

Lilithia

Yep. That's the consensus of this thread and I think we all agree on that.

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I don't believe that at all.

Believe it baby. When the time comes that I have to see anyone/everyone who has a little bit of cash and calls, the game is over. I enjoy my job, and I would like to keep it like that. If I am annoyed and grumpy dealing with some asshat, neither of us will have a nice time. There comes a point in our lives where most of us mature, and determine what we will and will not tolerate. Why be aggravated? If someone is not behaving/not jiving, I have no problem returning the donation and ending the session. Most of us are mature enough that a few benjis will not make or break us.:rolleyes:

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What the problem is, is this. Someone posts a question or topic. We all start replying. Then a lady comes in here and posts a shitty comment and has a bad attitude. Then it becomes a stupid hate thread and everyone is pissed. Seen it way too much here and it's getting old.

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Envelope, in clear sight. Have never had any provider look at it or pick it up until afterwards. Its a trust thing,..SOP

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Then a lady comes in here and posts a shitty comment and has a bad attitude.

Seriously!?! What a joke. You should go read your own past posts if you wanna see shitty! :D

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I'm in no way referring to ladies who are reputable visiting ASPs with reviews.

I'm not talking about regulars and how you have come to agree to take care of business.

I'm not saying that new people aren't sometimes amazing and blow your expectations away. But the following is true:

When a visitor or person you've never seen before does one or more of the following it's always preceded by immediate payment.

-Upselling (the biggest problem by far)

-Flat out Robbery

-Bait and Switch

-Getting you undressed before she does and then bolting

I like to know what I'm getting before I contribute. Sometimes you get more curious than you should, even doing the research, but girls with no reviews have to be asked dumb questions (only in person though). That's life. But even then, you can't get a straight answers even in person from typically visiting or new providers making then even more suspicious. And sometimes they get offended. "You'll be happy" is the most common and frustratingly vacuous reply. Even if the guy is LE his questions don't matter anymore, you're a suspect as soon as he enters they open the door, legally or illegally. So it makes no difference if you kiss or not, you're still going to jail, so why the constant secrets? That's why I rarely see newbies...or try to not see them anyway....

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Hmmmm well I don't do IOU's or pay me later/after so someone who is strict on paying a lady after need not try me.

I provide great service and my pictures are accurate so those 2 things are not problems for me but if for reason he comes in and there's a problem (he gets cold feet for no reason or whatever other reason not to really do with me) he's free to go (or outcall no problem) leaving but that decision should be made in the first like 2 minutes so no one's time is majorly wasted and there should be some type of small cancellation fee.

Lol glad majority agree (voted) before services provided.

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ESPECIALLY that (in bold).

I wasn't hostile over av8r's answer but with Pitbulls comment about how he liked that Av8r was here to remind all the guys that they PAY us.

The question wasn't directed at the women it was directed at the men. It wasn't when do you ladies prefer payment but when do you guys like to pay. There really is only one answer to that question and that is when she asks you. If you have a preference that's great but as a provider we don't have to oblige. If your preference is to pay after a session say that while booking not when you show up.

The opinion of the provider seems to matter less and less every day. There are fewer ladies that post and when they do they are often kind of cranky. Instead of the tiniest bit of empathy we get called hostile. I would like to reply more positively but there is rarely something positive to respond to.

Choosing when you pay is no different than negotiating, it's a power move. An attempt to gain the upper hand, the option to put your own value on the service provided. What's going to stop the guy from getting off and then telling a provider that he didn't think she was worth the price and paying whatever he wanted after a session? The only reason I can imagine that a gent would want to pay after is so he can gauge the session and then pay what he deems reasonable. If a gent was planning on paying the ladies requested fee for the agreed upon amount of time does it make a difference if you pay first???

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/porn-star-talks-pirating-pornography?src=soc_fcbks

So this link is about porn and not escorting but I think the idea is the same, the easier this gets for you guys the less you think of us as providers and sentient women.

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Very impressed with the dialogue this topic has generated. As an "interaction" based on a weird level of trust, this part of the transaction is always telling.

For me, my best encounters have been with providers who didn't even ask for the donation and which I happily paid while getting dressed.

Just for the record, I have never not paid and never would ... BUT I have been taken and then accepted those events as a lesson in life.

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...For me, my best encounters have been with providers who didn't even ask for the donation and which I happily paid while getting dressed.

Just for the record, I have never not paid and never would ....

Same here….

I'm surprised to see how many guys elect to prepay for their sessions….

Being asked for the money upfront tells me: 1. For whatever reason the girl is uneasy with me and therefore I shouldn’t expect my upcoming experience with her to be much above average, and 2. I should have done a better job of selecting a girl.

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