A little rant, or bitch, or.... advice to guys when emailing....

[Jez UaBriain]

A small rant-

Guys, just because you email a request to see us ...... Does not mean it is quarenteed that we will see you.

Recent case in point. Email arrives, request is made. The email is dryer then a popcorn fart. Nothing that even hints at a red blooded , American male personality. I ask for a little more information. I get a one line email in reply-"what do you wanna no"?

Excuse me, but is this guy really that dry? I want to know that there is more to you then your dollar bills, ok. How about showing some of your personality. If you want to play with me, I need to determine if you will be able to connect with me in a way that is conducive to having good, great, or fantastic sex .

I tried to explain this , and the next email there was a mention of interrogation. Some how I just don't think this guy would be much fun while nekkid. Probably just lay there, or want me to just blow him . Without any reciprocation of any kind from him....

The point being.....

Just try to offer a little bit of yourself when you contact us, alright ? And I don't mean your real life info, just yourself, your personality needs to shine in these kind of ventures that we have. Otherwise, unlike with us ; in our advertising, with the wealth of information that offers,.Or you can do back channeling with our prior clients to find out how we are. But we have nothing to tell us about you. Nothing that makes us want to be with you. Just the fact that you have those Bens, that is all. And surely, there is more to these guys then their cash flow.

[fork]

I'm kind of surprised to read this. No I'm not surprised that providers are thinking, feeling people interested in more than just benjamins. I get that. I am usually just to the point in emails or text messages, lest I be labeled a time waster.

So I don't mention my hobbies, my six-pack abs, or my thoughts on politics. I just stick with hello, here's when I'd like to see you, here are my references, here's my number.

But I guess if asked some follow-up questions I would open up.

[urfan]

hmm, appears to me like yer not just the typical 3G (insert disparaging prostitution-related noun here with a few colorful adjectives thrown in) around here and would like to have really good sex and really engage during a session but like a lot of the guys he is jest yer (repeat as above) hobby horse.

<sardonic font off>

don't know who to pity more in that deal.

and i'm with you Fork. you have to let the woman make that initiative and then respond. i'm sure a lot of gals don't really give a fuck about their john personally, just 'professionally'.

[Guest hgritstoo]

<taking notes.....>

Ok Jez, I'm confused because I thought manners dictated extensive research on the guy's part, followed by a business-like demeanor in all communications until such time as we are behind closed doors.

So, in text or email, which do you prefer?

1) request 1 hour incall appointment for 3:00 this afternoon.

2) Madam, may I have the pleasure of 60 minutes of your time, at your place, beginning at 3 pm?

3) Lady, startin' at 3 today, I'm gonna be bangin' you like a screen door in a hurricane! And I can go for the whole hour! When I get to your place, I want you face down and ass up!

I have to admit, if we have not met before, as the solicitor, I'm going with number 1.

[Archetype]

I have to admit, if we have not met before, as the solicitor, I'm going with number 1.

I usually give just a bit more - name, age, basic body stats. Since 95% of my appointment requests are through P411, I then tell the lady that she can visit my profile for more info, and that she can ask about anything else.

I'll admit that what chaps me is, a good number of ladies won't look at my P411 profile before we meet. Like Jez, I want to encourage a connection with the lady I'm meeting for the first time. If she thinks we won't connect, I won't feel the least bit bad if she states that. A recent appointment was less than stellar, and I think that could've been avoided with a profile visit by her, then a quick "I'm sorry, but I don't think we're compatible".

[Bit Banger]

I usually give just a bit more - name, age, basic body stats. Since 95% of my appointment requests are through P411, I then tell the lady that she can visit my profile for more info, and that she can ask about anything else.

I'll admit that what chaps me is, a good number of ladies won't look at my P411 profile before we meet. Like Jez, I want to encourage a connection with the lady I'm meeting for the first time. If she thinks we won't connect, I won't feel the least bit bad if she states that. A recent appointment was less than stellar, and I think that could've been avoided with a profile visit by her, then a quick "I'm sorry, but I don't think we're compatible".

+1, +1 (both points)

I too prefer a mental connection, so I tend to share information to help establish that connection in my profile. My email appointment requests are fairly dry and w/in legal standards. If you need more information, ask (as Jez did in her response to the initial request). There is a chance to be somewhat more forthcoming, but still keep it w/in legal boundaries for first visit. You can talk about dreams & fantasies, just don't make specific requests. One of the best ways to establish some personality data is to participate in the board (or boards) and tell the ASP your handle. Yes, that has gotten me turned down, but probably for the good of both parties.

[Seeking ~P]

Do guys think we really like receiving an email and all it says is

'Available?'

[Guest hgritstoo]

.... One of the best ways to establish some personality data is to participate in the board (or boards) and tell the ASP your handle. Yes, that has gotten me turned down, but probably for the good of both parties.

Agree that your postings here give a good indication of personality. I am amazed, stunned, and absolutely flabbergasted that you were turned down for an appointment on the basis of your posts, here. You're one of the more reasonable and polite voices here. May I inquire as to the explanation for denial?

[mj76]

I get a one line email in reply-"what do you wanna no"?

How about showing some of your personality. If you want to play with me, I need to determine if you will be able to connect with me in a way that is conducive to having good, great, or fantastic sex .

So, what do you want to know about us?

Some of us don't have a personality so all we have are our benjamins. My request is always like this:

Hi provider name:

Are you available at 5 pm tomorrow night for an hour incall. Thanks.

It seems to work fairly well for me.

[FirstTracks]

I guess in the age of Twitter we get ... well, twits.

I admit to being on the above average side of verbosity, but what in Zeus' name happened to the art of conversation?

If I sent an email to a new business client that said: "You available for a meeting at your office tomorrow around 3?" and that was it, I would probably have a hard time in business.

The same would be true in personal interaction if a friend gave me a woman's email address and I was asking her to meet for a drink.

What the heck is wrong with:

Hi <insert her name>

My name is <insert your name> and I was wondering if you had some time available around 3pm tomorrow. If that doesn't work, 4pm would work also. Or the next day anytime between 2pm and 5pm. If none of those times work for you, let me know some days/times that will.

I have seen <insert reference 1 & email or phone> and <insert reference 2 & email or phone> previously and they will know who I am based on <whatever>. Please use them as references.

I look forward to hearing back from you!

Thanks!

Me

Saves a whole lot of time!!! The next email I generally get back is either a confirmation of a day/time plus "instructions" or an offering of alternate scheduling. Skips any interim back and forth.

Sure you can leave out the reference part if you are a P411 member, but more ladies are requiring P411 PLUS references (the smart ones anyway).

Maybe I am just lucky, but I have yet to send one of the ladies essentially that email and not get a response.

tldr? Click here for the short version:

[Bit Banger]

PM sent. Thank you for the praise.

[Jez UaBriain]

Do guys think we really like receiving an email and all it says is

'Available?'

Ditto, p. I don't care about ther real life info. However, I do care about the personality that is contacting me wanting to spend their benjamins.

[urfan]

well done, FT.

they otta hang that up in the hobby horse only room right over the urinal so's everybody ken learn that stuff.

[Calibration]

What? You want to know the truth? Jeez, I got the crap beat out of me for a similar thread. I'm told its a business, don't get to involved, suspend your emotions. It sounds like you want to be charmed, excited, stimulated. That is wildly inconsistent with the industry. Does he have the cash or not? Now he's gotta have a personality? This is God's way of saying business is good.

[urfan]

hey Cal, nice flame there. yer larnin.

i'm i to assume you had your <sardonic> font on? lol

[macho]

What's wrong with him laying there and blowing him?

[Boardmember]

Jez,

I agree with you that guys should treat that initial email as a limited first impression. And at least, be nice. My goal with those is to be brief (I've heard the tales of how many txt, email, P411 pings and such ladies get), but also try to say something a little interesting. That takes some effort (especially when you're as boring as I am) but I think it helps set a good tone for possibly meeting.

But, sometimes the tables are turned and a provider's reply is a little curt or there is no reply at all even with a polite, yet brief message. Then I'm questioning my choice or wondering if the short reply is just no time to write more & wants to reply promptly or will I just be a name in the appointment book? Now some folks may say, that is exactly what they want -- just tell me where to meet you and when -- and so to each their own.

One of my favorite folks sent a one sentence message to my first contact. This is, again, like many of the issue within this activity: your mileage may vary.

A small rant-

Guys, just because you email a request to see us ...... Does not mean it is quarenteed that we will see you.

Recent case in point. Email arrives, request is made. The email is dryer then a popcorn fart. Nothing that even hints at a red blooded , American male personality. I ask for a little more information. I get a one line email in reply-"what do you wanna no"?

Excuse me, but is this guy really that dry? I want to know that there is more to you then your dollar bills, ok. How about showing some of your personality. If you want to play with me, I need to determine if you will be able to connect with me in a way that is conducive to having good, great, or fantastic sex .

I tried to explain this , and the next email there was a mention of interrogation. Some how I just don't think this guy would be much fun while nekkid. Probably just lay there, or want me to just blow him . Without any reciprocation of any kind from him....

The point being.....

Just try to offer a little bit of yourself when you contact us, alright ? And I don't mean your real life info, just yourself, your personality needs to shine in these kind of ventures that we have. Otherwise, unlike with us ; in our advertising, with the wealth of information that offers,.Or you can do back channeling with our prior clients to find out how we are. But we have nothing to tell us about you. Nothing that makes us want to be with you. Just the fact that you have those Bens, that is all. And surely, there is more to these guys then their cash flow.

[2Big]

He, Jez, you should write a book: "100 ways to NOT make any money as a hooker".

[nairobi09]

It makes absolutely no sense to put information about your preferences for clients in a thread here.

The only place it belongs is on your website or one of your ads. Do you think that potential clients are going to read this?

As for 'dry' emails/introductions, there are so many ways that we can be eliminated as prospective clients that it makes sense for us to provide less rather than more information about ourselves.

[Audrey Astor]

I guess in the age of Twitter we get ... well, twits.

I admit to being on the above average side of verbosity, but what in Zeus' name happened to the art of conversation?

If I sent an email to a new business client that said: "You available for a meeting at your office tomorrow around 3?" and that was it, I would probably have a ha

The same would be true in personal interaction if a friend gave me a woman's email address and I was asking her to meet for a drink.

What the heck is wrong with:

Hi <insert her name>

My name is <insert your name> and I was wondering if you had some time available around 3pm tomorrow. If that doesn't work, 4pm would work also. Or the next day anytime between 2pm and 5pm. If none of those times work for you, let me know some days/times that will.

I have seen <insert reference 1 & email or phone> and <insert reference 2 & email or phone> previously and they will know who I am based on <whatever>. Please use them as references.

I look forward to hearing back from you!

Thanks!

Me

Saves a whole lot of time!!! The next email I generally get back is either a confirmation of a day/time plus "instructions" or an offering of alternate scheduling. Skips any interim back and forth.

Sure you can leave out the reference part if you are a P411 member, but more ladies are requiring P411 PLUS references (the smart ones anyway).

Maybe I am just lucky, but I have yet to send one of the ladies essentially that email and not get a response.

Ding, ding, ding!!!! Winner!

Edited October 4, 2013 by Kaduk
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[2Big]

If you want to get a crash course in how not to conduct your escort business, read Jez's posts.

Just off the top of my head, I recall these disasters:

1. She pulls into a hotel parking lot - holy shizzle! There's a car parked. It must be 5/0. Jez hightails it outta there, leaving the client high and dry.

2. Gentleman requests she show up in certain clothing. Nope. Can't do it.

I'm sure there is more to be found in her vast collection of whines.

[FirstTracks]

One should be able to demonstrate success in at least one positive endeavour prior to attempting to stand in judgment of another.

[Bit Banger]

Just as there are guys who seek 3G experiences, there are gals who provide 3G sessions.

Just as there are guys who seek GFE experiences, there are gals who seek BFE clients.

There is nothing wrong with either set of individuals or their tastes. The type & amount of information you (client or escort) provide often dictates the type of experience you receive.

[Elle St. Lovelle]

Here's something I don't like:

"Yo, Ma. How much?"

[gr8owl]

If you want to get a crash course in how not to conduct your escort business, read Jez's posts.

Just off the top of my head, I recall these disasters:

1. She pulls into a hotel parking lot - holy shizzle! There's a car parked. It must be 5/0. Jez hightails it outta there, leaving the client high and dry.

2. Gentleman requests she show up in certain clothing. Nope. Can't do it.

I'm sure there is more to be found in her vast collection of whines.

And here I thought unproductive off-topic sniping was limited to Congress.

[Boardmember]

If you want to get a crash course in how not to conduct your escort business, read Jez's posts.

Just off the top of my head, I recall these disasters:

1. She pulls into a hotel parking lot - holy shizzle! There's a car parked. It must be 5/0. Jez hightails it outta there, leaving the client high and dry.

2. Gentleman requests she show up in certain clothing. Nope. Can't do it.

I'm sure there is more to be found in her vast collection of whines.

If I recall correctly, she said the gentleman requested some sort of lingerie at a hotel out-call which meant walking through the place dressed in very un-hotel attire. http://www.theotherboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36415

It's fine to criticize, but I think you need to be accurate with it. This seems like stretch.

[Laci French]

I love the playful banter before an encounter. When I open the door it feels as if we already know each other and makes for more fun!

[urfan]

my kinda girl

[SultryKitten]

I agree Jez(can I call you that?). I am single, and only do this when I have time so that connection for me is big. I love it when I have someone tell me their age, height, hair color, etc cause it lets me imagine who might walk in my door. I also get a feel for who he is, and sometimes they will even humor me with their descriptions of who they are. I LOVE a sense of humor cause it shows me they know how to have fun. If I get, "when are you available?' I tend to ignore cause it makes me feel like an object, and if I wanted to be that, I would go to a bar and pick up some guy who has no regards on if I enjoy this or not. The money, for me, is the understanding that we are enjoying an infinite amount of time with each other, and then back to our personal lives. No drama, gotta love that.

Sultry Kitten

[urfan]

great post, sultry.

hookerdom needs more gals like you.